Viera as the next new race~ Show your support

[killstein]

I always thought Viera where gangly and elfin. I guess I never really saw veria as fierce, they seemed fairly passive in 12 from what I remember.

they aren't really... gangly per say but their proportions are more similar to elezen than anything else, especially the length of their arms which almost go to the knee and their legs (and no, this isn't bc theyre wearing heels.)

i think this picture is a pretty good reference: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f1/c5...b60efd9511.jpg

[LittleChickenNugget]

they aren't really... gangly per say but their proportions are more similar to elezen than anything else, especially the length of their arms which almost go to the knee and their legs (and no, this isn't bc theyre wearing heels.)

i think this picture is a pretty good reference: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f1/c5...b60efd9511.jpg

See I see this picture and to me... I love Fran, yes.
But she's just an Elezen with ears? She doesn't even have animalistic feet. She's on the tips of her toes with the help of some heels.
So I keep seeing people say they don't want a Hyur with ears.... I guess an Elezen with ears is better? Isn't that just a tall Hyur with pointy ears?

[Nestama]

But she's just an Elezen with ears? She doesn't even have animalistic feet

Elezen have three clawed toes?

[LittleChickenNugget]

Elezen have three clawed toes?

But that's only a very, very minor difference in appearance. Her body is basically an elezen on the tips of her toes.
Minus a couple of toes.

[silentwindfr]

But that's only a very, very minor difference in appearance. Her body is basically an elezen on the tips of her toes.
Minus a couple of toes.

well a model from FF12 isn't really representative, plus they have already make clear that if viera come they will make change for make them own sort of viera, that why the concept art was quite different.
just a reminder quite amusing, but actually outside aora most of the race of ff14 we can play are already race that come from previous FF, they are race from FF11 with modification, but are highly inspired from it... then see race from other FF pop in the game is not impossible, especially with Rabanastre raid that simply rubs onto our face a clear link between ishgard and hyadelin... worst we did seen 2 race from ivalice from this raid, and i'm kinda sure before the last raid we will pop out the viera, if they are smart, they will present the viera with the last raid that will come for the 4.5, right before the next expansion...

however, it's perfectly possible that nothing will be done and it will be sad to not add them....

vangaa and seek pose a trouble with equipement since some part of the equipement is simply not showable on them or will recquire a tons of work for adapt them to the new skeleton and model... and the real trouble with this is the fact that we have 2 expansion of content already.... more of 15 major patch of armor and clothing that need to be adapted.... do it's impossible, no clearly not, but do they will take this hard road, i doubt they have the manpower for this... that why ao ra was that similar to the other race.

and why viera is possible because even if they adapt them to be different, what is fairly easy, since in FF14 actually for the women we lack one sterotype, the glamour one, the sexy one... elezen are strange tall, but not the sexy and glamour archetype, miqote are the tomboy archetype, the aora is the cute girl archetype, the roe is the muscular one, the hume is....well basic one and lala is lala...
they can perfectly make the women the viera the amazone type glamourous and sexy while strong women... it will perfectly fill one spot we don't have soo far. for the male they can perfect make something at the opposite, like the women are the strong one , while the male are smaller and less muscular, more agile type. for make simple, the inverse of the aora, women tale and sexy, while male smaller and more agile one. will be interesting... since technically viera male was never shown in ivalice, since they are generally hidden and protected.

in all in all, if that happend i'm curious how they will do it... if that don't happend i will be sad, since honestly yoshida is responsible for this situation, when he did ask about the new potential race with his poll add viera into it was.... well... a bad move or a good one depend of the viewpoint...
anyway, he need to come out and clearly states if they will or not add it... but i doubt it will end well if is not. *laughs* i did played a lot of mmo and never i had seed a race soo much asked and creating soo much passion about. it will be a bad move to simply drop the ball, but fan fest is coming we will know sooner or later... next years.

ps: i want to make clear something here, the viera is a bit an arlesienne for FF14 yoshida and his team can decide to not do it but we have seen that with the arrival of the aora, people still asked for it... i guess is in the interest of the game to add them, especially with the raid that litterally say that ivalice did exist in hyadelin and showing race of it.

the add of viera is not do it will happend, is more, when it will happend.

[Balipu]

But that's only a very, very minor difference in appearance. Her body is basically an elezen on the tips of her toes.
Minus a couple of toes.

And bigger butt.

[Lambdafish]

And bigger butt.

Well there we go, we won't ever get it for this reason.

[RichardButte]

And bigger butt.

Ugh, don't even get me started on all of the disgusting, washboard-flat butts in this game...

*shudder*

If these bunnies had BUNS, it'd be the best thing to happen to XIV since ARR...

[Clover_Blake]

I'm unsure of what the problem is with this discussion about "everything is a hyur with ears".

If we consider that hyur = humanoid shape, every race is obviously going to be humanoid. They aren't going to create a deformed, senseless race, and they aren't going to create a fully animal race that run on their four. Every race has to be humanoid so that adapting armour is easy. Also, because people aren't going to play things that are too deformed or monster-like (see the low Roe population as an example). The majority of people tend to play the races that look the most attractive to them.

That Viera, miqo'te, and Au Ra look humanoid doesn't mean they're hyurs or that they're unoriginal. It simply means they have a humanoid shape, which is what most of us want.

[Alacran]

I'm unsure of what the problem is with this discussion about "everything is a hyur with ears".

If we consider that hyur = humanoid shape, every race is obviously going to be humanoid. They aren't going to create a deformed, senseless race, and they aren't going to create a fully animal race that run on their four. Every race has to be humanoid so that adapting armour is easy. Also, because people aren't going to play things that are too deformed or monster-like (see the low Roe population as an example). The majority of people tend to play the races that look the most attractive to them.

That Viera, miqo'te, and Au Ra look humanoid doesn't mean they're hyurs or that they're unoriginal. It simply means they have a humanoid shape, which is what most of us want.

Thank you I completely and wholeheartedly agree. I understand those that want more unique races are allowed their opinions, however i feel there may be a disconnect they do not want to address about the developers and to a certain extent, many FF fans mind set. Much of the appeal of the FF series as a whole is it's beauty, not only of it's worlds, items, and music, but of it's characters. Every main FF protagonist from 1 - 15 has been unearthly beautiful, that goes for men and women.
Dissidia art

I have come to believe that this occurrence is not by chance, but instead a staple of the series as a whole and one that is very important not only to many fans, but also to the upper echelons of the company. What else explains 1.0-2.0? it is beloved and they know how important the series tenets are to their fans, FFXIV is often been called a theme park mmo, that's by design. Including aspects from previous FF titles is a win for them as they simply need to dig in to the past to bring out new content.

I am biased, i will admit it. For me the subtle changes between the races is enough. I understand that may not be enough for some, but i do not see it changing any time soon. WoW is the largest mmo, with the largest player base. It touts a race selection that is far more diverse than almost any other game out there. For their next expansion they have made sure both factions now have access to both variants of eleves in the inclusion of subraces.

Night Elf-
Male-

Female-

Nightborne-
Male-

Female-

Blood Elf-
Male-

Female-

Void Elf-
Male-

Female-

There are other races i'll not lie, however they are also merely color swaps of existing races (visually, there are stat and racial skill differences). Point being since the first expansion of the game nearly all races introduced have been those that appeal to more traditional fantasy races. Notable exception to this would be the Pandaren race.

Pandaren-

I have not done research on their popularity (I have no interest in them personally), however from my own experience I see very few of them about. In this example, the popularity of the more celebrated races was evident, the dev team at Blizzard understood that and adjusted to give the player base what they wanted. I hope SE/ FFXIV does the same. Even if the differences are subtle, even if the race selection is nothing more than "humans with stuff added" i do not see it as a bad thing really.

There is a reason i play FFXIV more than WoW, it's because of those subtle differences between races. (and the lack of shoulder pads hat look like boats on my character)