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  1. #13601
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    Lord_Zlatan's Avatar
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    Zlatan Tarrant
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    Famfrit
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
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    Thanks for the tips. I don't have all of those skills yet but I will certainly add them to the rotation.

    I just think its way more fun than PLD which (at least at level 58) is run in, HG flash twice, Riot combo around mobs. Ur at the mercy of ur healer. With DRK you can at least manage your resources to the point where u can sustain urself a bit.
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  2. #13602
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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan View Post
    Thanks for the tips. I don't have all of those skills yet but I will certainly add them to the rotation.

    I just think its way more fun than PLD which (at least at level 58) is run in, HG flash twice, Riot combo around mobs. Ur at the mercy of ur healer. With DRK you can at least manage your resources to the point where u can sustain urself a bit.
    Unless you skipped your job quests(did they change the HW ones so you no longer need to do them for skills?), you should have everything except the Quietus that I mentioned(AoE attack that recovers MP per hit - can fill your MP bar in 2 uses in a pull of 6+) in regards to SenorPatty's post.
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  3. #13603
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    Tridus's Avatar
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    Unless you skipped your job quests(did they change the HW ones so you no longer need to do them for skills?)
    No, you still need to do the HW ones for skills.
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  4. #13604
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    Lord_Zlatan's Avatar
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    Zlatan Tarrant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    Unless you skipped your job quests(did they change the HW ones so you no longer need to do them for skills?), you should have everything except the Quietus that I mentioned(AoE attack that recovers MP per hit - can fill your MP bar in 2 uses in a pull of 6+) in regards to SenorPatty's post.
    I misinformed you. I was grinding XP hard and haven't done my 58 or 60 job quests.
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  5. #13605
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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan View Post
    I misinformed you. I was grinding XP hard and haven't done my 58 or 60 job quests.
    Ah, I recommend you doing those before progressing into SB dungeons. They will come in handy quite a lot.
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  6. #13606
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    Aosha's Avatar
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    Aosha Koz'ain
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    Odin
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Popped into Kugane castle for expert roulette, someone had to afk for a sec so I went to check gear.
    WHM in 310 or so, BRD in 290-300, BLM in... oh god level 68 gear.

    But, uncharacteristically for this thread, he was very receptive to my recommendation to do his job quests after the dungeon.
    The run itself went fine, even if really slow (did you know Yojimbo summons a second round of dragon heads in place of a third round of coin gathering?). The others were apparently a group of friends, and made some small talk along the way. Nice run overall.
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    Last edited by Aosha; 01-05-2018 at 03:23 AM.

  7. #13607
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    Erim-Nelhah's Avatar
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    Erim Nelhah
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Even undergeared, it's not that hard to go into grit, hit unleash twice, spam abyssal drain. Was he in grit? Was he just spamming his dps combo on one enemy?
    Unless I specifically need Unleash to gather mobs (hint: not usually) or have a proc from Unmend, I usually just use AD to gain hate, possibly with a DA or 2 thrown in to give the healer an extra DPS gcd or 2. In fact, I will usually mana floor myself with AD if I've pulled a decent sized pack, for better DPS and hate.

    While I would love to just spam DA+AD, I've never figured out how/when doing so is actually possible, due to DA's huge cost (relative to AD).

    --Erim Nelhah
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    Last edited by Erim-Nelhah; 01-04-2018 at 04:59 AM.

  8. #13608
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    Kallistra's Avatar
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    Kallistra Noblesse
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Ran Expert the other day for the first time in...months. Got Ala Mhigo. The run wasn't awful, but the WHM and RDM were...odd.

    The WHM was a 100% heal WHM. The tank was pulling as big as she could, so this worked out fine for the most part. But there was one point before the final boss where the tank pulled everything just before the last barricade, but not to it so we had to kill it after everything else died. And this healer had full MP, no one is taking damage, and they just stood there for the full minute or so it took us to destroy the barricade. Wasn't a game-breaker, but it just annoyed me a tiny bit.

    And the RDM was just... so impatient. They thankfully didn't run ahead of the tank, but they would start AoEing immediately, sometimes before the PLD could even Flash, often forcing them to pause to regroup everything and Flash a second time before continuing the pull. I could understand if this only happened on the first or second pull, but it happened every trash pull. And the guy would keep AoEing as we ran, sometimes ripping aggro if we were going down a long stretch. As an ex-tank main, I felt bad.

    But, I'm not going to lie, this part made me laugh so hard. On the final boss something possessed the RDM into thinking that it would be a good idea to stand directly behind the tank shortly after the boss was aggro'd. You know what the boss does really early into that fight? Cleave the aggro target 3-4 times in succession. As you can imagine, the RDM melted before he could even cast Jolt. Why he did that in the first place, I will never know, but it was hilarious.
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  9. #13609
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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erim-Nelhah View Post
    While I would love to just spam DA+AD, I've never figured out how/when doing so is actually possible, due to DA's huge cost (relative to AD).
    Throw up Blood Price, throw down Salted Earth, use Quietus as soon as you can, use Carve and Spit as much as you can(no DA for it as that removes the MP regen). You can usually get through a full large pull without running out of MP completely, especially since you will be doing the 1-2-3 for the last 2-3 enemies.
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  10. #13610
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallistra View Post
    Ala Mhigo.
    I can never grasp why some people can be so lazy, like that WHM. "Oh I don't need to heal! Guess I'll count the tiles on the floor." Standing around is more fun then doing something I guess...
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