Objection to the new adjustment for PGL, they gonna make this class useless in PT.

[Alise]

Most of people who play PGL would think of either it as evasion-tanking or that it will go into Dps route one way or another. However,From what I see from the description and skill list of the new PGL/MOK are going to have, the define role for PGL is in pretty bad state, come on' we know that in MMO game it is better to be good at one way and not jack of all-trade like this.

Here see what it can do : "little attack skill" "little dodge skill" "little stun skill" "little debuff skill" "Need a lot of MP" in MMO, this look bad... <_<;

I know that this is possibly be futile, but SE says before that they will release the class detail ahead so that they can hear some feedback from us. If anybody agree that you not want PGL to be kind Dps rapid attack instead of just little of everything, please like this post.

Let's look it easy from PT recruitment perspective :

-PLD = for safe tank.
-WAR = speed run tank.
-DRG = DD
-BRD = every PT need Mp refill song.
-WHM = healer most important.
-BLM = for all the debuff and nuker. (work as current THM role)
-PGL = Do we really need this? let's fill LNC/DRG til max..

My goal in this thread isn't about complain. Only intention here is to notify dev team that you are repeating the same mistake by making unwanted class.

[Alise]

Sorry, Inb4 someone come and say like this post if you disagree. <_>;

"Like this post if you want PGL as the current plan, jack of all'trade type."

[Synfrag]

I don't remember them asking for our feedback on the matter. I certainly could be wrong but regardless, if you don't post it in the proper forum category (Class Discussion: PGL) and do not tag it with the dev tag ([dev1206]) you are not offering feedback.

[Holland]

After reading the actions list again, it seems PGL is not a jack of all trades, some of the skills are based on evading an attack, increasing evasion, blinding, stunning, slowing and absorving MP to keep himself active in battle. His focus seems to be centered on evading completely while dealing good damage with the added elemental effect on attacks.

[Alise]

Thank for head up, so I tag [dev1206] in now.

And no, not really, so far what I have seen 90% of the threads that get dev feedback and some even quote in Yoshida posted before (about craft 1.19 complain) are from here in "General section"

@Holland
Stun is useless in any boss-scale tho, do you ever seen any of them get stun? (Buffalo?, Urekeus? Batraal? Ifrit?) even if it does, it last no longer than blink of an eyes.

PGL is useless against both Batraal and Ifrit, I were hoping the new change would make him more useful in new content, not make it look worse with a clear define role as in solo-list. A war that rely heavily on MP is already sound bad enough... (no any half magic knight is a success role in MMO)

[grandm]

i object to ppl objecting to something they have not tried yet.

i do not think pug is losing its identity or place in a party. they will be able to deal high damage in a short period of time, who wouldn't want that in their party? my concern is the same as most ppl what will MP use be like? but i will wait to play it before i make up my mind

[Betelgeuzah]

Doesn't really look all that jack-of-all-trade'ish to me at all. It's another Job that excels in DPS but differs from LNC and BLM in that it's more of a frontline-mage type entity.

The fact that it has debuffs means relatively little, as the debuffer archetype has been divided and incorporated into the existing Jobs. Since every Job has a form of debuffing it doesn't really take away from MNK's ability to DPS. Every job can debuff in some form or another, so MNK won't lose anything by having a few.

Usually in an MMO if you can excel in many archetypes at once your powers will be toned down accordingly. Right now the debuffer archetype doesn't even exist, so no Job's power needs to be toned down. MNK isn't stepping on anyone's toes here.

[Elexia]

Monk/Pugilist is going to be sexy actually. I don't object to classes/jobs getting sexy. PGL isn't necessarily useless against Ifrit, I've done it as PGL plenty of times, it's just 9000 easier to toss Lancers at it.

[Alise]

@grandm :

waiting that long would be too late.. 1.21 is mark for the ending of battle adjustment. and 1.20 is near finish.

Monk/Pugilist is going to be sexy actually. I don't object to classes/jobs getting sexy. PGL isn't necessarily useless against Ifrit, I've done it as PGL plenty of times, it's just 9000 easier to toss Lancers at it.

Aye, and that is really bad to let it happen in MMO..

[Asaren]

You should put a head up "Only PGL R50 vote please"
because I can see that everybody who vote disagree in this thread clearly not plan to play PGL, or not like PGl to begin with.

Seriously.any PGL fan would not like this change at all.