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  1. #11
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    BloodRubyXII's Avatar
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    Owa Owa
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    Quote Originally Posted by snipski View Post
    Machinist is really good in Rival Wings flame thrower in start of mid fight is super useful and the knockback can knock ppl out from edges that is usually a one shot move.

    The only healer that needs to be tuned down abit id say is Astro good Astros are a fucking nightmare to play against. If you are a good healer in feast you wont have any problem to climb the rankings in feast because the carry potenial is so much higher then the other jobs.
    Still not many ppl seem to play Healer at least on Chaos Data Center.
    No-one wants to play Feast period lol. I mean without queueing at certain times or just outright win-trading, you don't get games and 5 button smash is boring anyway. Last reset no-one in the top 10 queued. At all. There's no decay, so people don't have an incentive to queue once they have the rewards, which means it's dead after a few weeks. Why would anyone be attracted by the prospect of being a part of that? It's not just an issue on Chaos. Even the JP DCs aren't doing so well for PvP activity anymore.
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    Last edited by BloodRubyXII; 12-29-2017 at 11:34 PM.

  2. #12
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    Lloyd Irving
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    I never seen wintrading in Feast i think, most ppl that plays are veterans that played earlier season and seem to take it seriously...
    There is still alot of cool titles and stuff to be had, but i guess most ppl dont care about that shame really. Because feast is the only "good" pvp this game has to offer and there is not much to do when there is no new raid content out anyway.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by snipski View Post
    I never seen wintrading in Feast i think, most ppl that plays are veterans that played earlier season and seem to take it seriously...
    There is still alot of cool titles and stuff to be had, but i guess most ppl dont care about that shame really. Because feast is the only "good" pvp this game has to offer and there is not much to do when there is no new raid content out anyway.
    There's a few who -have- wintraded, I don't know if they still do. It's usually healers, for obvious reasons being they control the queues. A ranking system alone is enough for me to play feast, I don't really care much for the actual rewards - I've never been above plat but I suddenly need gold just for the ring but there's no queues lol.
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    The Feast most certainly has win trading issues that I don't believe were ever resolved so what is the point of competing? Healers don't need to be balanced so much as DPS need to learn how to take down healers. CC and timing is your friend. 6 - 7 DPS on you and you living is not a balance issue but a DPS issue.
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  5. #15
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    Lace Valeria
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    Machinist Lv 80
    It's a "Soaring needs retuning" issue, especially when healers have shorter casts (for example, DRG's Fang & Claw combo does 5000 potency, the same as a Cure II, but it's 5000 potency damage performed over 7 seconds vs 5000 potency healed within 1.3), can already provide 20% damage mitigation (so if Soaring is additive, that's now 40% at 10 stacks), and still even before regens and emergency heals are applied.

    Let's not act like things are fine as they are, and not every DPS out there is bad, just like not every healer running around right now is good, nor every job balanced. The proof is all over this section of the forum. CC and timing is definitely paramount, but how about those melees that don't have it?
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  6. #16
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Healers just need to be completely reworked at this point. They're the major issue with every PvP mode these days - in Rival Wings they're stacked because they're so powerful. The Feast, meanwhile, is plagued not only by win trading but fights revolving around which healer is better. The impact of other jobs feels rather minimal by comparison. I actually wish we just had some kind of 1 vs 1 PvP mode where the same jobs are pitted against each other in a completely level playing field.
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    Runic Raven
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I actually wish we just had some kind of 1 vs 1 PvP mode where the same jobs are pitted against each other in a completely level playing field.
    A 1v1 with the same Jobs would probably the most balanced thing they could put in this Game. But this would probably also be impossible since some jobs are rarely played wich would cause those people to have rediculous Queue times _ wich we already have.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRubyXII View Post
    Even the JP DCs aren't doing so well for PvP activity anymore.
    I WONDER WHY THAT IS?
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    Last edited by ThirdChild_ZKI; 12-30-2017 at 03:19 AM.

  9. #19
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    1v1 would need something like block/counter, guard break, punish movements, cc combo etc. We have literally nothing that involve mind gaming in 1v1 situations. Person who spam more buttons usually win there. Just play dark knight and you would win anybody 1v1. Playing against same job is not fun either.
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    Last edited by Sunako; 12-30-2017 at 03:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    1v1 would need something like block/counter, guard break, punish movements, cc combo etc. We have literally nothing that involve mind gaming in 1v1 situations. Person who spam more buttons usually win there. Just play dark knight and you would win anybody 1v1.
    Guess what we used to have in 3.x PvP?
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