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  1. #13461
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    TheAngelneer's Avatar
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    S'vhele Cottl
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    Siren
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    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    I... But... What...? The entire point of SCH is having mitigation abilities that will help you sneak in damage and /prevent/ the need to overheal your party members.
    It is the Pure Prince(ss) Healer mentality. They believe they are just a do-gooder that heals out of the purity of their hearts and can't get anywhere near those terrible spells that cause pain and suffering. No no no, bashing stuff and dealing damage is the thing those savage DPS do, they only need to make sure their hair looks good when they are casting their heals and that they stay forever innocent and pure.
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  2. #13462
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    bounddreamer's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by TheAngelneer View Post
    It is the Pure Prince(ss) Healer mentality. They believe they are just a do-gooder that heals out of the purity of their hearts and can't get anywhere near those terrible spells that cause pain and suffering. No no no, bashing stuff and dealing damage is the thing those savage DPS do, they only need to make sure their hair looks good when they are casting their heals and that they stay forever innocent and pure.
    I'd say they're watching Netflix, but I actually have run dungeons on healer while watching Netflix and it's still possible to heal and dps. It's that easy.
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  3. #13463
    Player
    Enla's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by TheAngelneer View Post
    It is the Pure Prince(ss) Healer mentality. They believe they are just a do-gooder that heals out of the purity of their hearts and can't get anywhere near those terrible spells that cause pain and suffering. No no no, bashing stuff and dealing damage is the thing those savage DPS do, they only need to make sure their hair looks good when they are casting their heals and that they stay forever innocent and pure.
    Meanwhile the rest of us are over here, bathing in our beloved salt mine and gleefully watching it grow with every pug we encounter.

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  4. #13464
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    Infindox's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Absenthine Starfrost
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Had a weird dungeon run the other day. Something happened to the tank irl and they accidentally wiped us all because of it. They said issues irl but they were back and sorry, no big deal. We continued back to the place before we pulled and the healer goes "uh... Aren't you guys gonna wait for protect?"
    Other dps: oh sorry thought you'd use Protect right before we pulled
    Healer: my what patience.

    Then leaves us. I honestly didn't know what to think at the time lol
    (2)

  5. #13465
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    Aosha's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Aosha Koz'ain
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    I... But... What...? The entire point of SCH is having mitigation abilities that will help you sneak in damage and /prevent/ the need to overheal your party members. Yes, SCH can be a bit of an undertuned mess at 50 these days and it's HW additions are sorely missed when doing ARR content, but there should never be any time you shouldn't be making sure to keep up your dots. Especially as many of them are INSTANT. Miasma 2 and Bio 1-2 take no time to weave in... I can understand not wanting to Bane if you need your Aetherflow stacks for a Lustrate or Sacred Soil instead, but that suggests far more problems if that was the case.
    + Shadowflare which is an OGCD


    On the conversation that was going on earlier around that i260 staff:
    I'd say it's all dependent on how you personally view those "Schrödinger's argument" situations, and how willing you personally are to risk it happening. Both sides have their valid points.
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    Last edited by Aosha; 12-27-2017 at 11:02 AM.

  6. #13466
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    Lokier's Avatar
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    Character
    Lokier Ame
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Amidst trying to get my BLM to 70 I encountered horrible group after horrible group in Doma Castle and Castrum Abania... The worst was when a healer joined Castrum Abania in 65-67 gear... Wearing a lvl 60 ilvl 230 weapon...

    We died on the first pack, we died on the first boss, we died on every pack on the way up the dungeon, we didn't die on the 2nd last boss because there's not really any damage to worry about (unless someone doesn't take their buff.) By the end the tank eventually quit on the end boss when we couldn't even kill it after 6 or 7 tries. No idea what was said in the end before they all seperated, they were all German... Queued for an English run...
    (1)
    Last edited by Lokier; 12-27-2017 at 02:52 PM.

  7. #13467
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
    World
    Bismarck
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lokier View Post
    No idea what was said in the end before they all seperated, they were all German... Queued for an English run...
    I get the same thing all the time - I'm Australian, so on the Japanese server, and I set the duty finder to English only but still end up in lots of parties with three Japanese speakers. Apparently a lot of people just tick all the boxes anyway to get into the dungeon faster.
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  8. #13468
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Character
    Uriel Valesti
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    So I ran Rabanastre earlier and well... People didn't really follow mechanics (no surprise) and we wiped twice on Mateus. Like at one point Team A pulled their mob over to Team C (my team) and stuff like that. Blah blah we finally make it passed him with Alliance B bitching at everyone. I get it, you just want to clear. But what do you expect from a 24man raid? They go to shit like 75% of the time.

    The best part of the run though was when I had to solo heal Hashmal. It was super fun (no lie, it was), and thank you RDM on my team who helped me keep up with the ressing! You earned my comm! I sometimes actually wish there were more opportunities to solo heal content.
    (3)

  9. #13469
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    Kakiko's Avatar
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    Character
    Halo Kitty
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Ran Temple of the Fist the other day as healer and with 2 friends; one tank and one DPS. The other DPS was a RDM who could not stay alive. He dies a couple of times and then admits, with a laugh, that he was playing on his xbox at the same time and "kept picking up the wrong controller." He kept dying to SUPER EASILY avoidable stuff, too. On the last boss, during the proximity aoe, he actually ran INTO the boss rather than away from and faceplanted. This time, I just left him there. He was nice, but still joking about how he was telling his girlfriend how he could easily play two games at once.


    Ran the Aetherochemical Reactor last night with same friend as tank. Got a healer who let tank die on an early trash pack and then at the two Ascians boss, the healer died within 15 seconds three times in a row, to the point our other dps left and we got a replacement. Fourth time, healer dies again within 15 seconds, new DPS dies, tank and I manage to survive enough to beat them and move on to the last fight, where the healer spends a few minutes arguing with the tank about how the tank wasn't tanking properly. After that, the run was fine. Neither tank nor myself got commed though, which was kind of frustrating.
    (3)
    Canadian, eh!
    "When someone told me I live in a fantasy land, I nearly fell off my unicorn"

  10. #13470
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    Minako_Nightsong's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Minako Nightsong
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 70
    Today I got Skalla as my expert roulette which I have run dozens of times before as a white mage. I was horrible. We wiped to the trash pulls twice before the first boss, I died during the first boss, then we wiped again on the trash right after. I don't normally have a problem keeping everyone alive on big pulls but I do stress and struggle even at 320 ilvl.

    The tank then typed regen and Medica2 via the translator. I had never considered using such an expensive group spell on just a tank but figured I'd try it. It was a game changer. I felt less stress than usual and could put some dps out too. The rest of the dungeon went smoothly. This tank didn't yell at me but instead just gave me good advice and the dps stuck it out showing a lot of patience. I just thought that was awesome.
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    Last edited by Minako_Nightsong; 12-27-2017 at 06:28 PM.

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