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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Personal housing was a mistake and it should have been kept to FCs only.
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    Hyomin Park
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Personal housing was a mistake and it should have been kept to FCs only.
    Disagree. Because then players would either just make a shell FC for a house (and there would still be shortages), or just be stuck with apartments, which are shoddy alternatives since they're basically just more expensive FC rooms with less benefits than an actual FC room.
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    Calista Fallon
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    Housing is one of the attractions for MMOs to me so I wouldn't be playing if I had no house. I spent a lot of blood, sweat and tears (gil) on mine hehe. It is my hideaway and a place I can do as I please. As a mature (age-wise) player here, I cannot stand FCs filled with kiddies so I would not want to be forced into one. I have enough trouble coping with cross server behaviors from people in dungeons. I like my friend's small fc just fine
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    Alinhbo Rhiki
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Personal housing was a mistake and it should have been kept to FCs only.
    I disagree. They should have had enough foresight to realize they would need a large number of houses to support demand whether it was FC's only or included personal housing as well. While I don't think they need a house for every character since some will forgo housing altogether, the system needs to be able to support that just in case.
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Personal housing was a mistake and it should have been kept to FCs only.
    No, it wasn't a mistake - and not everybody cares to be a part of a Free Company, either. Especially given how easy it is to be screwed over as a result of investing in one for months or even years only for petty drama to cause the entire thing to collapse upon itself...which is far from a rarity in MMO's. Numerous MMO's - some of which are older than FFXIV - offer personal housing for every single player that desires it.
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    Calista Fallon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    No, it wasn't a mistake - and not everybody cares to be a part of a Free Company, either. Especially given how easy it is to be screwed over as a result of investing in one for months or even years only for petty drama to cause the entire thing to collapse upon itself...which is far from a rarity in MMO's. Numerous MMO's - some of which are older than FFXIV - offer personal housing for every single player that desires it.
    You hit the nail on the head. My view exactly.
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    No, it wasn't a mistake - [...]
    Given the limitations of their ward system? Yes it was.

    Personal housing belongs into instances and should've been kept on hold until an instanced housing system is finished instead of being pushed into the ward system to be done with it. Not only because it's far less resource intensive, but also because wards filled with personal houses are almost always dead, killing the intended "neighborhood feel" right there. They even had that intention and wanted the two to be entirely separate, but didn't pull through in the end.
    Chances are, the current wards would have already sufficed for that, since even in the absolute worst case scenario of every single person creating a one-man FC to circumvent the whole thing, you'd only be looking at half the potential buyers, as right now, you can have both, a single-person FC house "and" a personal house. That's not gonna work out, ever, not even on the aggregate level, much less on a per server basis.
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    Luluma Luma
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    Excalibur
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    Dragoon Lv 62
    The argument I've seen posed by multiple people saying instanced housing would be harder on the servers are just.. kind of wrong?

    20x the housing they have now, instanced, would be less intensive than the wards most of which just sit there unused and empty most of the time, which are constant and ever present even when there is LITERALLY no one in them, eating up resources to have them there.

    There is no reason for them to cling onto this outdated, poorly executed system for the housing, other than Yoshi P being stubborn and he openly admits as much.
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    Alevia Rohan
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Has no one else pointed out the math in the OP is wrong? Just to clarify:

    4 Areas, 18 Wards, 60 houses per ward is 4320 per server
    there's 24 NA servers, so that's 103,680 houses.
    (they're adding 34,560 to NA with the 6 new wards).

    Just thought I'd point out the flaw. It still feels a bit tight, especially on populated worlds, but it's an improvement.
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    Last edited by DotsNnots; 01-20-2018 at 02:20 AM.

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    worldofneil's Avatar
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    Scott Pilgrim
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DotsNnots View Post
    Has no one else pointed out the math in the OP is wrong?

    (they're adding 28,800 to NA with the 5 new wards).
    Heh sorry about this, but your math is actually wrong too. It's 6 new wards, not 5 (13, 14, 15, 16, 17 and 18)

    So that's actually 30 plots, 2 divisions, 6 wards, 4 areas, 24 servers = 34,560 new houses (There will be a 103,680 in total in NA worlds over all 18 wards).

    285,120 houses in total over all 66 servers (95,040 new houses)
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