Either SMN and RDM should lose their Raise or BLM should get a Raise.

[Llugen]

SMN at the beginning of 4.0 was not weak, it was just tough to figure out and master and needed quality of life. I personally know SMNs that were keeping up with if not ahead of BLMs even at the beginning of deltascape savage. SMN had been a steep learning curve, I can definitively say that said curve turned me off from even bothering to learn it at the beginning of 4.0 until it was buffed. Now it's just insane.



Also, notice how access to bind is distributed across the caster role, with tribind freeze and tether. Raise however....

Besides, I would say again that "pure DPS" doesn't really exist in this game; one selfish player will always have a tough time outdamaging the contribution that support can give to SEVEN OTHER PLAYERS. #drgnin

[Neela]

yeah there were exactly 3 of them at first for a long time and se fucked their own mantra „making everything easier“ totally up on smn - never the less you are good in avoiding questions/facts which are uncomfortable for u so I’ll better leave your opinion as it is - BtS epi 3 is waiting <3

Last words: if raw dps exist or not doesn’t really matter if devs decision to create pure ego dps cls‘ without grp synergy, the options are easy take them or leave them but questioning their intentions is a personal problem after all... : /

Well hopefully u‘ll find your peace with 4.2 even without a res ;3

[Dualgunner]

yeah there were exactly 3 of them at first for a long time and se fucked their own mantra „making everything easier“ totally up on smn - never the less you are good in avoiding questions/facts which are uncomfortable for u

Could you restate your question please--in as clear English as you can muster? I don't usually comment on post composition, but it is incredibly difficult to interpret what you're typing, and I know you can do better because you have written better in the past.

[Llugen]

I'm not even sure there was a question that wasn't rhetorical. For what? For balance?

Just because you're not imaginative enough to envision how BLM could have movement and raise doesn't mean that it is impossible. Case and point: SMNs use DoTs, DRK is a tank, SAM is a DPS. FF is the literal definition of reinventing itself. Don't accuse me of "ruining a class" because you can't think outside the box.

[Neela]

articulation might be a bit fussy cause I just came home from the xmas market a bit uhm drunk I guess - the question was if he really want his changes even if they would absolutely break Blm lore like they broke our lore just for numbers, leaving the real issues as they are. Is being top dps really so important?

edit: outside the box? it’s more like you can’t think out of the box creating your own spot without taking other cls‘ advantages and pair them with raw power to be top tier in all facets. That’s not out of the box that’s lame and kinda ego. : /

[Llugen]

Sorry to get frustrated again, but it's obvious you haven't even bothered reading my posts as I've explained exactly that ad nauseam.

1. Lore gives way to balance in an MMO, and lore can be creative/reimagined (black magic raise vs white magic raise)
2. the class that is advertised as "low utility, high damage" should absolutely be the strongest damage (this should be a no brainer, even if drunk)
3. ....what exactly are "the real issues" if not movement/usability, damage, and utility..? Glamour items? lol

[Neela]

1. we won’t find one way here let’s stop talking about Blm res
2. i never denied that - what u would know if you would have read my posts carefully
3. They left Egi & Bahamut Issus which are/were our real problem and overbuffed everything else insanely just to keep the crowd under control

Im not a Blm hater like many might guess - I’d like to see buffs/balance for them but not copy/paste ones, more likely ones which fit and strengthen their identity and not the quite opposite - that’s the nutshell.

[Caduagm]

1. Lore gives way to balance in an MMO, and lore can be creative/reimagined (black magic raise vs white magic raise)

Go play another MMO then. This is Final Fantasy. Lore always in first place.

[Remedi]

But point is that SE said that they won't give a raise to BLM back in July, which means to me that they do not consider raise a caster utility, they even said that they give it to RDM becuase of lore (and SMN has access to it because SCH had to have raise), which imho means that they did not consider the implications.

Frankly it's more probable that they'll choose to limit it instead of giving it to other jobs.

edit: Also I would like to remind to everyone that it's pointless to attack ppl beliefs since it won't lead us anywhere, Llugen is free to share his opinion as everyone is

[Dualgunner]

articulation might be a bit fussy cause I just came home from the xmas market a bit uhm drunk I guess - the question was if he really want his changes even if they would absolutely break Blm lore like they broke our lore just for numbers, leaving the real issues as they are. Is being top dps really so important?

How did they break Summoner's lore for numbers? Nothing regarding Summoner right now feels like it's lore-breaking from the standpoint of FFXIV's lore.

And being top is important when you bring nothing but personal dps.