World First tank line up confirmed

[MagiusNecros]

good dark knights can stop whinning and just get good.

Thank you for contributing to the conversation with a drive by git gud shitpost. Now if you have anything interesting to say by all means...

[MyaValentine]

B-But MU TUNK BALANCE... I've been saying it for a while now, the "balance" is there just because drk needs a small twick dosn't mean the class is broken, underperforms or is any worse than the other tanks. this entire forums section has about the whole first page filled with drk crying the sky is falling threads. yes. it need small adjustment, but the tank balance is there all classes are useful can clear content just like any other class.

[TouchandFeel]

For everyone that says the tanks are balanced, please provide me with an explanation how they are in fact balanced, going into the level of detail and thought that has been put into the explanations for how they are not balanced.

I would love to have my apprehensions laid to rest and be convinced that DRK is undeniably balanced with PLD and WAR.

[MyaValentine]

For everyone that says the tanks are balanced, please provide me with an explanation how they are in fact balanced, going into the level of detail and thought that has been put into the explanations for how they are not balanced.

I would love to have my apprehensions laid to rest and be convinced that DRK is undeniably balanced with PLD and WAR.

bal·anced
ˈbalənst/Submit
adjective
keeping or showing a balance; arranged in good proportions.
"she assembled a balanced team"
taking everything into account; fairly judged or presented.
"accurate and balanced information"

all tanks, do similar amount of damage, all tanks have similar amount of defesense and raid utility, all tanks can clear content and be efficient at tanking and dps and utiltity. BALANCED. DRK GOT WOLRD FIRST ON THE HARDEST FIGHT IN THIS GAME HISTORY fight that was not gear gated, fight that didn't have broken mechanincs, fight that had the thighest amount of incoming damage and dps checks fight that all it required was skills. drk needs small adjustments but tanks are balanced and drk isn't a bad tank anyone else who dissagree is either ignorant, objectibely wrong or don't have a clue how tanking works in this game.

[Chrono_Rising]

bal·anced
ˈbalənst/Submit
adjective
keeping or showing a balance; arranged in good proportions.
"she assembled a balanced team"
taking everything into account; fairly judged or presented.
"accurate and balanced information"

all tanks, do similar amount of damage, all tanks have similar amount of defesense and raid utility, all tanks can clear content and be efficient at tanking and dps and utiltity. BALANCED. DRK GOT WOLRD FIRST ON THE HARDEST FIGHT IN THIS GAME HISTORY fight that was not gear gated, fight that didn't have broken mechanincs, fight that had the thighest amount of incoming damage and dps checks fight that all it required was skills. drk needs small adjustments but tanks are balanced and drk isn't a bad tank anyone else who dissagree is either ignorant, objectibely wrong or don't have a clue how tanking works in this game.

So this proves 100% dark is viable, and no one denies this claim, dark is very much viable. The opinion is that it is not balanced. What exactly does dark bring to the table that paladin or warrior does not do more effectively?

[Bourne_Endeavor]

all tanks, do similar amount of damage, all tanks have similar amount of defesense and raid utility, all tanks can clear content and be efficient at tanking and dps and utiltity. BALANCED. DRK GOT WOLRD FIRST ON THE HARDEST FIGHT IN THIS GAME HISTORY fight that was not gear gated, fight that didn't have broken mechanincs, fight that had the thighest amount of incoming damage and dps checks fight that all it required was skills. drk needs small adjustments but tanks are balanced and drk isn't a bad tank anyone else who dissagree is either ignorant, objectibely wrong or don't have a clue how tanking works in this game.

Sigh...

I was really hoping this fallacy nonsense would die. Angered cleared Omega with SAM/MNK. Are you going to argue they're better than DRG or NIN? Clearing content only proves the jobs are viable. Hooray, DRK is better than 3.0 AST. One should hope the devs have better standards than that. Getting World First doesn't change the fact DRK has objectively inferior mitigation, damage and utility. So what exactly is balanced about it?

[AziraSyuren]

Nobody said DRK was unplayable, but to imply that it's not outright worse than the other two is just flat-out ignorant.

It can do the things the other two tanks do, but it either has to work harder to achieve them, or is just simply inherently disadvantaged. All jobs being able to accomplish the hardest content is something that all content is designed around.

If something is the "worst" it's bad by definition, even if it works.

[MyaValentine]

lol these guys,it's viable they said as if this was just cake walk raid or just your regular raid level. We are talking about ultimate here. fight that rrequires you to give every inch of fiber you have, every cd every shield every ounce of dps you can bring. all of you and veryone following "meta" is what's currently wrong with this community who believe that just because you can squeeze 1% more with other classes means they are not "balanced" this is the most balanced game I've seen in a long time, they are all so close in perfomance that if you think by switching to another class you will do better, you first have to look at how you play.

want to know what was not balance? a class not been able to clear a fight due to not enough dps or defence since it did not had magic mitigation. or so far behind that the entire raid communty neglected them for almost the entire expansion. this time around every single tank is up to speed. people complaining dark knight do less damage makes me laught as is you are able to reach top 10 on flogs to make a difference. every tank perform extremely well the problem is not the tanks is the players.

[Vallamaria]

all tanks, do similar amount of damage, all tanks have similar amount of defesense and raid utility, all tanks can clear content and be efficient at tanking and dps and utiltity. BALANCED. DRK GOT WOLRD FIRST ON THE HARDEST FIGHT IN THIS GAME HISTORY fight that was not gear gated, fight that didn't have broken mechanincs, fight that had the thighest amount of incoming damage and dps checks fight that all it required was skills. drk needs small adjustments but tanks are balanced and drk isn't a bad tank anyone else who dissagree is either ignorant, objectibely wrong or don't have a clue how tanking works in this game.

Sorry, but it would seem you're the one who is wrong and doesn't have a clue how tanking works in this game. Because DRK's overwhelming number of shortcomings compared to the other two tanks should be glaringly obvious to anyone that isn't blind. They have worse mitigation, party utility, AND damage compared to the other two tanks.

Also, the fact that the World First clear happened to contain a DRK rather than a WAR doesn't prove balance at all. It only proves DRK is definitely viable and not totally unplayable. However "viable" and "balanced" most certainly do not mean the same thing.

[Inuk9]

Sigh...

I was really hoping this fallacy nonsense would die. Angered cleared Omega with SAM/MNK. Are you going to argue they're better than DRG or NIN? Clearing content only proves the jobs are viable. Hooray, DRK is better than 3.0 AST. One should hope the devs have better standards than that. Getting World First doesn't change the fact DRK has objectively inferior mitigation, damage and utility. So what exactly is balanced about it?

He never said DRK was better than WAR/PLD. People here needs to learn howw to read.