Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

Dear WHMs who over-gear my AST by at least 2 patches and get stuck with me in Shinryu NM: please actually heal.

Luck would have it that I queue into Royal Menagerie for Trial today - even made a comment before the gate went down about how I would get that when my gear is pretty crap. Co-healer is a WHM, so despite not being all that great at it compared to Diurnal, I switch to Noct so we have shields. Tank pulls once buffs are going, and near immediately we have a partial wipe because no one remembered to move for Tidal Wave + we had a few new people. Try again from the top, and I notice very quickly that our tanks are dying left and right in the few seconds it takes me to juggle cards around. I look to my WHM co-healer and what are they doing? Literally spamming nothing but Stone, not even trying to heal the nearly-dead tanks... I guess expecting me to do all the healing. Both the tanks died a combined total of probably 10-12 times and not for a lack of effort on my part, but simply because I literally could not keep up with all of the damage going out to the group as well as attempting to keep our tanks topped off.

I was pretty much healing all by myself - Lightspeed going all the time, constantly putting down Stars, shielding as much as possible and Synastry out the wazoo. But my gear is just barely above the AF stats (mostly running Mhigan still with a couple Ivalice pieces) and with so many new people having trouble with mechanics, I just could not do it all on my own. I think at some point the WHM realized they maybe should do some healing... by way of Medica 2 spam. Then right back to Stone when they had the chance. I even had to use the LB3 to get most of our dps up because they weren't hardly stopping to res anyone either.

It's things like this that admittedly have made me become nervous as both a co-healer and a dps when I see a WHM in full raid gear. Almost all of them seem to tunnel vision rock throwing over doing their actual job and it's stressful no matter what role I'm on. I say this as a WHM main who is very gung-ho about dps, too. ; ;

[tinythinker]

Dear WHMs who over-gear my AST by at least 2 patches and get stuck with me in Shinryu NM: please actually heal.

...I notice very quickly that our tanks are dying left and right in the few seconds it takes me to juggle cards around. I look to my WHM co-healer and what are they doing? Literally spamming nothing but Stone, not even trying to heal the nearly-dead tanks... I guess expecting me to do all the healing. Both the tanks died a combined total of probably 10-12 times and not for a lack of effort on my part, but simply because I literally could not keep up with all of the damage going out to the group as well as attempting to keep our tanks topped off.

I was pretty much healing all by myself - Lightspeed going all the time, constantly putting down Stars, shielding as much as possible and Synastry out the wazoo.

Had a similar start tonight in same trial (I was WHM) but opposite in that I could mostly only heal, rez, heal. But we got through after the first Tidal wipe despite lots of health dropping all over like stones. Co-healer was good. Sorry you had a stressful run. I don't mind doing DPS but not when people are dying.

[Miste]

Dear players going into Sirensong Sea with level 50-59 i110-i150 item level weapons.

You can buy a level 60 i255 weapon from an NPC in Castrum Oriens for a measly 36k gil that is immensely better than those even if it is NQ.

On my server for example you can even get an i255 HQ from marketboard for only 45k gil.

Surprised that you might get kicked? Start caring about how you affect the people who get grouped with you and maybe they'll start caring about you. Ignorance doesn't give you an excuse to make other player's carry your extremely low DPS/low healing/can't hold hate on tank because you didn't care enough to spend a few mins to see where you could get a cheap upgrade.

New player on their first job okay I get it, but the people I see doing this have multiple level 70 jobs. Seems to me you just don't care so don't be surprised if you get kicked since you obviously don't care about the rest of your party don't expect your party to care about you, that's just silly to expect at that point.

[EorzeaHero69]

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Did you report the whm for doing something like that?

[Aster_E]

...basically enabled their poor performance.

I'm always perturbed by things like this. A battle can be going to crap multiple times over, always because the same person or two keep repeating the same mistake, and another person tells them they're doing great. Meanwhile, you work your ass off, save the fights, try explaining what needs to happen or why, and then end up with zero comms, regardless of role, more often than not (I've literally had this happen on tank, on healer, and on DPS, all). Note: I'm not particularly worried about getting comms, but it's still a brow raiser to see this sort of thing happen.

In fact, on a related note, here's what happened to me today when I ran Sohm Al hm on my Warrior. It may not be my best tank in terms of player skill, but that's not the point, nor the fact that I did alright. No one was new, according to the lack of tome bonus, and no one spoke up about wanting tips on anything. Still, this one Red Mage... Died twice in the first boss to the large exploding bulbs (second time being right after rez), again in the second boss to the fire breath, and then survived the last boss. HOWEVER, none of the dps helped me with the glowing adds so one barely managed to leave a pool of lava, but hey at least the non-glowy adds were handled fast. The DPS left puddles of lava in the middle of the arena, restricting where I was able to go to move the boss as needed. The last fight was just a mess. Cue all three of my party members congratulation one another on their "good job" once it was over.

Not the worst experience I ever had in there, by far, but goodness gracious.

[dayspring83]

Bardam's.

Whats your iLvl? There's a steep curve between the 63 and 65 dungeon and if you're using anything less than i270 it's gonna be tough.

Also, I'd suggest holding off on the DPS until you get the healing piece down. I know groups want you to bring the DPS but they'd prefer not wiping more. People tend to be understanding if the reason for not DPSing is that you're learning, and not the typical "it's not my job".

[Luciel-Nyx]

As you can see, I was kicked for simply pointing out the obvious. In hindsight though I'm pretty sure they just wanted to boot me immediately after the 5 minute timer was up so that they could bail without the penalty and re-queue. Supper frustrating behavior but nothing really to be done about it except vent a little and re-queue myself. (Dps queue timer is up to 27 minutes now, hurrah.)

I'd report them, that's so annoying >.>

[tinythinker]

Whats your iLvl? There's a steep curve between the 63 and 65 dungeon and if you're using anything less than i270 it's gonna be tough.

Also, I'd suggest holding off on the DPS until you get the healing piece down. I know groups want you to bring the DPS but they'd prefer not wiping more. People tend to be understanding if the reason for not DPSing is that you're learning, and not the typical "it's not my job".

I'm not going for dps because of expectations in the sense of people wanting numbers or fast runs, it's because people see WHM and think they can pull everything in the dungeon and expect super-powered heals and stuns from Holy to burn things down fast. So I ask for small pulls. And still struggle some. If the tank does really big pulls in a dungeon like that and I do no dps/stuns, which is fine with me, it often means Presence of Mind + chain Cure 2/Benision + Regen with Largesse + oGCDs+ luck for many tanks to keep them up because they are really getting wailed on without interrupts of any kind on the mobs. I try to balance getting those stuns at the start while the damage dealers get a burn going with reverting back very fast to heal-heal-heal-heal-oh-crap-heal...

Anyway, it's not an i-level thing (I went from i289 to i315 over the past few weeks after being gone a a month or three), it's just me. I've received advice from my FC and the forums, have tried variations on some openers. Still struggling for now but still keeping at it as well. And have really come to loathe Bardam's as I get dropped there so often. Even on my birthday

[I welcome suggestions, just drop them into the thread linked above.]

[Avatre]

[I welcome suggestions, just drop them into the thread linked above.]

Only suggestion I can give, is practice more. Maybe do some runs with FC members who will ease you into the larger pulls to get you more comfortable/familiar with them. Just hopefully they aren't like the people in my FC when I first started healing...they didn't bother to go slow, it was an all or nothing type of training.

As for a story, finally had a wipe free run of Rabanaster on Tuesday night, helped that my alliance had SCH, WHM, DRK, MCH, and 3 RDM. I only personally died once, and I helped res people in other alliances thanks to the trick I read about on the forums(playing on PS4, hold L1 and use the D-Pad left and right to get to them) which will help me get the achievement for resurrecting non-party members much quicker.

[Aosha]

[snip] ...which will help me get the achievement for resurrecting non-party members much quicker.

Sorry to break it to you, but I'm pretty sure people in the other parties of the same alliance don't count. :/