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  1. #41
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    KateHarthing's Avatar
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    Kate Fleur
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    Omega
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I can see what you mean, for me I'd be a casual farming person. Or just working in a shop - until something happens and I have to learn fast in order to adapt to the new harsh world thats just fallen upon us.
    Not because I was born that way, but because I had to. That feels exciting.
    (3)
    • Pleaaaaase release Koana from employment jail ♥

  2. #42
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    Seig345's Avatar
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    Seigyoku Cypher
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 66
    Adventurers who dont want to be heroes, but through a series of events out of their control garner more and more fame and are called upon to defend their realm from greater and greater evils...

    Sounds familiar
    (4)
    "Ul'dah can keep their dusty markets, and their streets paved in silver and gold.
    Limsa Lominsa keep your pirates, and your ships covered in musty mold.
    My loyalty lies with Gridania, with the Moogles and the tree spirits of old." -The Forky Conjurer

  3. #43
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    Nic Pay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kragon View Post
    I just want to be a simple adventurer. Is that so hard to do that in mmorpgs nowadays? Why does game developers always need to stroke our egos by making us 'the chosen one' in every online rpg games. Back in the old days... during the era of Everquest, Dark age of camelot and Ultima online nobody was the chosen one. In those games each and every players were simple adventurers trying to survive in a harse and hostile world. Oh how I miss the good old days of gaming.

    Sadly those golden days of gaming are never coming back. Every single mmorpg I play nowadays the game makes me the chosen one. And another worst thing is that thousands of other players around me are also the chosen ones.
    speak for urself I wish my charcter was even more important than they where and was callin the shoots with the scions and not just noding their head agreeing to everything someone ask them
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  5. #44
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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Boo Box
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    Exodus
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko View Post
    Play FFXI. They legit don't give a sheep about you in that game's storyline.
    lol, came here for this. I found it slightly amusing that each time you start a new expansion's MSQ, the NPCs had no idea who you were. Granted that may have been more due to each MSQ being fairly independent of the others as they could be done in any order.
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  6. #45
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Kragon View Post
    Its not just in FFXIV. Every other mmorpg I have played recently in the past 3-4 years the game always makes us players the chosen ones... like we are some kind of demigod or something.
    I can understand the want to not always be the big hero but this is probably not so easy in an ongoing story like an MMO. In an MMO a big part of it, is to progress your character. You do that by getting to higher levels, getting more skills and better armor. Also there is a certain pull to go through some big epic story and slay strong enemies. I mean I do believe that FF14 overdid it a bit by having us slay Thordan and his knights in only the second expansion thus one kinda question what will happen down the line. But how would you write the story? Would you be fine with lots more stories like those in the fetch quests? Why would we slay all those enemies if we are nothing more than common adventurers? How would we get to certain places if nobody is truly knowing us thus giving us their permission to do so?

    In the end would a story be truly good if we always just stayed the same old adventurer? I mean we kinda were a nobody at the beginning of ARR so we did the same as vanilla WoW. But there is a point where we naturally kinda have to be more known in the world, because if we dont than that means that we are probably doing just unimportant small stuff that barely anyone remembers. That does not sound exiting to play through.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  7. #46
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    Kallera's Avatar
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Mateus
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    I am a little sick of it too, to the point that I would do anything get rid of the WoL moniker. It never really sat well with me. and It really does feel like too much rides on the fact that we exist and never fail.

    It makes any opposition to us, even the summoned gods, seem trivial nowadays. The Empire hasn't had proper teeth and competence from its grunts since 1.0. The "WoDs" were done away with over a weekend. And If anything, being a god literally just means you are lasting 10 minutes before dying at our hands.

    Who will save the world from us, I wonder?
    (3)

  8. #47
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Because gamers today are special snowflakes, so game developers have to make them feel like special snowflakes. Even though they are really just purple penguins.
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    Last edited by Whocareswhatmynameis; 10-21-2017 at 12:03 AM.

  9. #48
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Here's the thing though. You start as a regular adventurer. You don't get rewarded as special until later in the base game, and even then it takes a lot of work. If you weren't recognized as a hero after that, then there would have been something wrong with the story lol, it wouldn't make sense.

    I'm pretty sure you are the hero in every FF game anyway, not sure why people are surprised at this.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 10-21-2017 at 12:35 AM.

  10. 10-21-2017 12:11 AM

  11. #49
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    BillyKaplan's Avatar
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    Lho Polaali
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Who will save the world from us, I wonder?
    I get the feeling they honestly tried to touch upon that but have lost that direction somewhere along the way. Thordan basically calls you out as an impossible existence, and they constantly mention how we basically suck the life out of the Mothercrystal even when she doesn't actively invest power in shielding us from things like the Ultima weapon. I wish they'd go back to that, but there's little room for such things unless someone stops to realize it makes absolutely zero sense you beat Shinryu the way you did. I just hope they won't lock it behind side-quests.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pancakes View Post
    It would be an interesting turn of events if we follow the path of the First. It seems to me like that's where we are going.
    I doubt it. The Ascians are a constant, actual threat. We constantly get visitors from the Void, a world which is the First's equivalent on the spectrum. We're incredible and we're amazing, yes, but it's not like we're running out of threats to balance us out any time soon.
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  12. #50
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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
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    Machinist Lv 80
    It's been said already, but the only way you can be "just" an adventurer is to literally avoid doing anything noteworthy, but that wouldn't make for a very exciting game at all. At least not from the player's perspective.

    I think back to White Knight Chronicles, where your created character was largely just there, the main character's coworker that he started out with. You were literally just that guy/girl there, "Party Member A" until perhaps the very end of the second game. (Reason for this was your character was more for the online component, but you were at least given some acknowledgement of existing in the main story.) Still, from a critical standpoint, you literally had no reason or influence to anything happening at the time. That would've been a boring story if you were the main character.
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