Personal Housing Too Nice to Have: How Many Houses in Shirogane Are Personal Balmung

[Wolftamer]

Nope. They should have enough plots so that if ppl have the money they can get one and not have to take one or buy one from someone else. Everyone should have the size they want.

But why? I don't understand this mentality at all that everyone should have everything. I beg to ask this question: what is wrong with exclusivity in a game? Satisfaction in getting stuff comes from the challenge, not in having it handed to you. Housing is special and so sought after because of the very fact not everyone can have it. If SE just made it so everyone could have it then it wouldn't be special and nobody would really care that much about it. It would feel empty owning one then.

I argue that SE should leave the housing where it is now, and allow deeds to plots to be sold on the Market Board. Let the economy dictate pricing of plots. Let it be like real life Real Estate.

[Nuna]

But why? I don't understand this mentality at all that everyone should have everything. I beg to ask this question: what is wrong with exclusivity in a game? Satisfaction in getting stuff comes from the challenge, not in having it handed to you. Housing is special and so sought after because of the very fact not everyone can have it. If SE just made it so everyone could have it then it wouldn't be special and nobody would really care that much about it. It would feel empty owning one then.

I argue that SE should leave the housing where it is now, and allow deeds to plots to be sold on the Market Board. Let the economy dictate pricing of plots. Let it be like real life Real Estate.

Everyone pays a subscription to the game. That means everyone should have access to all of the content. Explain to me how housing is challenging. I have a home, and I fail to see where the challenge was? & no, let's not make it be like "real life" real estate because this is not real life. This is a fantasy game.

[Wolftamer]

Everyone pays a subscription to the game. That means everyone should have access to all of the content.

And that is the largest fallacy of this forum and this game. Just because you pay your sub doesn't mean everything should be handed to you. It is still a game where elements of skill and fortitude should still apply to gaining access to content and earning rewards. The challenge is what makes it fun. Having shit handed to you is NOT fun. Why do people go on and on about how much they loved XI, this is why. Sure, sometimes the gates in XI were a little extreme, but the satisfaction of passing those gates was worth every bit of it.

[Nuna]

And that is the largest fallacy of this forum and this game. Just because you pay your sub doesn't mean everything should be handed to you. It is still a game where elements of skill and fortitude should still apply to gaining access to content and earning rewards. The challenge is what makes it fun. Having shit handed to you is NOT fun. Why do people go on and on about how much they loved XI, this is why. Sure, sometimes the gates in XI were a little extreme, but the satisfaction of passing those gates was worth every bit of it.

Explain where I said it should be handed to you? I said you should have ACCESS TO IT. Housing is not free, and disregarding gil buyers people still have to make the money to buy the plot. Ensuring people will have a plot available when they have the money is not "handing out" anything.

[Searban]

And that is the largest fallacy of this forum and this game. Just because you pay your sub doesn't mean everything should be handed to you. It is still a game where elements of skill and fortitude should still apply to gaining access to content and earning rewards. The challenge is what makes it fun. Having shit handed to you is NOT fun. Why do people go on and on about how much they loved XI, this is why. Sure, sometimes the gates in XI were a little extreme, but the satisfaction of passing those gates was worth every bit of it.

It's been a long time since I've registered on any message board just to call someone out on their bullshit. But that's what I've done just now, because the amount of people trying to make it sounds like stuff like this makes any sense whatsoever is becoming tedious.

First and foremost, where did the idea that having access to content means having things handed to you come from? When I'm paying my sub I get access to content such as Savage Raids, Ex Trials or Ranked Feast PvP. It's up to me whether I want to or am able to (in terms of my skills, time or dedication) participate in that content. But there is nothing within the system stopping me from making attempts.

Personal housing however is significantly different. Artificial scarcity created by insufficient supply and various oversights on SE's part has caused many players to be barred from accessing that piece of content by the system itself. If I was to try to purchase a plot right now my just about only option would be to buy it from another player. Thus engaging in a process that might as well be against the ToS. Provided I can find anyone willing to sell a plot on my server in the first place.

Finally, the challenge and having the skill and fortitude to beat it. I'm not sure you're even being serious here. Getting a house within a system FFXIV has should be a challenge? Owning a house should be an achievement? What exactly would that achievement be? Sure not amassing enough gil, because a) earning money in this game is surprisingly easy, while small plots are fairly cheap (with medium and large ones not being that expensive either); b) there is a large number of people that have more than enough gil and still can't get a house. Then what? Is the achievement not having RL obligations preventing you from being in front of your PC/PS4 the exact seconds servers go online? Or maybe it's being able to reschedule such RL obligations in order to be in front of your PC/PS4? Or beating the queue times? Or maybe being lucky enough to avoid all the log-in issues early hours of patch days are plagued with?

[Beelhi]

And that is the largest fallacy of this forum and this game. Just because you pay your sub doesn't mean everything should be handed to you. It is still a game where elements of skill and fortitude should still apply to gaining access to content and earning rewards. The challenge is what makes it fun. Having shit handed to you is NOT fun.

Nobody says SE should hand you things for free. But Housing is literally the only thing ingame that you cannot have access to even if you have the gil. Thats like saing "Sorry you can't queue savage now because there is already 1000 players doing savage" or "Sorry there is only 1000 Mounts for savage so unless you beat it in time you can never get it". Literally everything ingame is accessible if you have the gil and/or skill for it EXEPT housing. And sure you can pay someone 100 mil to buy the plot off them, but it shouldn't have to be that way.

[Penthea]

But why? I don't understand this mentality at all that everyone should have everything. I beg to ask this question: what is wrong with exclusivity in a game? Satisfaction in getting stuff comes from the challenge, not in having it handed to you.

Players don't consider things like server queues and lobby errors as legitimate forms of challenge in a game.