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Thread: 4.1 patch notes

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    Quote Originally Posted by xJimmehx View Post
    Whats wrong with dragoon in pvp? Whyd it lose burst? I havent played in a while but the patch notes showed a lot of potency increases in most skills. Why isnt that a good thing?(i know why burst is good, im asking what they did to mess it up)
    I guessing since they only need 3 eyes or whatever now to get Life of the Dragon. Less burst, but more often? But I have no idea as I don't know how Dragoon works.
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    Wow they nerfed dragoons -again-? And that summoner nerf. Lmaooooooo

    These people have no clue what's going on. -None-.
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    Why do you hate drg so much т_т
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    Looking over it again, while AST, WAR and RDM, the 3 jobs that are considered weakest right now got some buffs, they also got nerfed in the areas that was actually good. Less damage and burst for RDM. Less damage for WAR, AST... I guess the buffs there are fine but they didn't have to remove deorbit.

    Giving WAR a defensive skill in exchange for damage makes sense, but it is too significant. And doing the same with RDM is a mistake imo. I'm sure with Vercure I'll be able to make some clutch heals but If I do less damage now it doesn't really matter.

    I'll just have to test some matches and see how significant it is.
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    Last edited by Shirolumi; 10-06-2017 at 08:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirolumi View Post
    Giving WAR a defensive skill in exchange for damage makes sense, but it is too significant..
    WAR dps was no greater then Pally or DRK as is, not sure what the cooldown time on Thrill of Battle will be, but it will likely be 90 or at best 60 seconds. Which is way to long when compared to what something like TBN can do. This just further puts WAR in a bad spot for PvP.

    Now Pally, and Requiescat change, that is interesting. The zero MP cost is pretty big, and feel like it will allow pally's to do burst and still healing well.

    On Dragoon, not sure that is a burst nerf. Yes, both Geirskogul and Nastrond lost 500 Pot, but then gained from lower recast to 5 seconds. At 10 seconds, that was way to long to be considered usable twice in one burst window. But 5 seconds is just short enough to be used twice in one window.
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    Dragoons lose Battle Litany for Dragon Sight, really? I'd rather keep Battle Litany. I don't know how well this tethered buff will do in a pvp environment.
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    Wow, what a joke.

    I hate all of these changes. You nerfed SMN again??? While giving RDM Vercure so, one on one no other DPS will ever be able to kill a RDM?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strywin View Post
    Dragoons lose Battle Litany for Dragon Sight, really? I'd rather keep Battle Litany. I don't know how well this tethered buff will do in a pvp environment.
    Will most likely be bad. Tether to a tank? He runs off to mess with the healer, so he loses his 10% damage. Tether to a ranged? Yes, bait that ranged class closer to the enemy so that hard swap will gib him before your healer knows what's going on. At least the Drg will retain the 10% damage even if the tether is broken just like in PvE. It's only the teammate you're tethered to that will suffer.
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    Um energy drain does give u hp back so yeah you could pretty much 1v1 anybody with it. Also adding the max-potion to the mix so don't know why people are acting surprised about smn small nerf.
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    What a demented joke.
    Dark Knight is the only job that desperately needs a severe nerf.
    Yet, they keep crippling Warrior - already the weakest tank in ranked PvP.

    Hello. Hello. Hello.
    Nice job! Nice job! Nice job!
    Good balance! Good balance! Good balance!
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    Last edited by CyanTea; 10-07-2017 at 02:31 AM.


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