Black Mage Raise Ability

[Lelila38]

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All said. Thank you!

[Cynfael]

*peeks at thread*

Yep, still don't want any kind of BLM Raise. With every other DoM Job resurrecting folks, it's nice having just one that isn't concerned with scraping corpses off the floor.

[Mycow8me]

Be funny if a BLM could zombie someone for like 30 seconds. Actually that would be pretty neat in the event that both healers go down. Zombie one and it raises the other. Maybe if they get over healed it goes away? Lower it to 20 seconds?

I would actually be ok with somewhat of a dps loss for something like this.

[Phoenicia]

*peeks at thread*

Yep, still don't want any kind of BLM Raise. With every other DoM Job resurrecting folks, it's nice having just one that isn't concerned with scraping corpses off the floor.

Yeah, let's keep it at where BLM is the one that puts them on the floor in the first place! \o/

[Ceallach]

It's still a fact that black mages almost never carry support abilities/spells and summoners almost always do. It's also still a fact this thread is not about red mage, so no one cares if Verraise is "too good" or "just right" (so Daybreak's silly point about red mages reviving better than summoners doesn't matter whether it's true or not). It's also a fact that the lore built up from the entire FINAL FANTASY series is a huge indicator of how jobs in FINAL FANTASY XIV are developed. Finally, it's also still a fact that black mages in FINAL FANTASY XIV have too tight a rotation to justify any sort of party support beyond the occasional Mana Shift.

That really should settle everything.

[PrismaticDaybreak]

The only reason I said anything is because Lambda had to go and whine about Red Mage having a useful non offensive support option. You had to go and try to prove your lore epeen and I didn't ask you nor did anyone else ask you to. Nor did i suggest BLM should get a raise (They should not.) I'm simply against the DPS equality raise argument.

[Ceallach]

The only reason I said anything is because Lambda had to go and whine about Red Mage having a useful non offensive support option. You had to go and try to prove your lore epeen and I didn't ask you nor did anyone else ask you to. Nor did i suggest BLM should get a raise (They should not.) I'm simply against the DPS equality raise argument.

You seemed to be arguing that summoners are offensive only. Maybe you should be more clear next time. And be less of a jerk.

[NovaLevossida]

BLM doesn't need a raise or other utility. It needs to keep its identity as the big damage DPS job for the casters, like SAM is for the melees. To that end, BLM and SMN are far, far too close together in damage with BLM having none of the utility and SMN on average doing as much or often more damage in boss fights.

[PrismaticDaybreak]

You seemed to be arguing that summoners are offensive only. Maybe you should be more clear next time. And be less of a jerk.

I blatantly said that I wasn't. Try not being so pompous next time. Remember you started the rude tone with your 'Perhaps next time you'll do a bit more research' comment. So don't act like some innocent princess when all you had to do was not be snarky to begin with. And also learn to read.

[Makrar]

BLM needs a big dps increase, not a raise. It shouldnt be doing less damage than summoners. Period