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  1. #101
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    The wyvern has a place in ffxiv and it's at the end of my lance.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onji_T View Post
    The wyvern has a place in ffxiv and it's at the end of my lance.
    That's not true. Dragoon definitely needs a wyvern. After all, you can't fight at your full potential if you're going into battle on an empty stomach...
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onji_T View Post
    The wyvern has a place in ffxiv and it's at the end of my lance.
    Truer words have never been spoken. This should be the slogan for Dragoon.
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onji_T View Post
    The wyvern has a place in ffxiv and it's at the end of my lance.
    Actually that is true. Dragoons hunt dragons. I believe it was an exception in FFXI because you felt sorry for the little thing.

    There really is no point in a pet system when there are so many other jobs who fit this role much better.
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    Actually that is true. Dragoons hunt dragons. I believe it was an exception in FFXI because you felt sorry for the little thing.

    There really is no point in a pet system when there are so many other jobs who fit this role much better.
    like the none that exist right now? Other then BST/SMN/PUP (pup being like DRG where you fight alongside your pet) there isnt much out there. Giving DRG a pet makes them stand out between what we have now, which is not much more then WS differences and some minor skills that set 3 of them apart. If they dont do something really interesting with DRG, its going to feel like a WAR varient.

    and again, they can do w/e the hell they want with lore, its mostly shot to hell with all the changes til 2.0 anyway.
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  6. #106
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    btw id really love to see the other regions opinions on this. is there no-one here who could translate and see what the others think. Particularly the JP (they get more of a say, don't kid yourself)

    with so many posts about this it seems like someone would have done this by now.
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanfire View Post
    like the none that exist right now? Other then BST/SMN/PUP (pup being like DRG where you fight alongside your pet) there isnt much out there. Giving DRG a pet makes them stand out between what we have now, which is not much more then WS differences and some minor skills that set 3 of them apart. If they dont do something really interesting with DRG, its going to feel like a WAR varient.

    and again, they can do w/e the hell they want with lore, its mostly shot to hell with all the changes til 2.0 anyway.
    You do know that no matter what DRG will not have a wyvern until some time after v2.0? The pet system will not be put in until the game is on the new servers and engine... So pretty much what you want is DRG to start out as a none pet class and then about a year or so after it is out to suddenly become a pet class. Right because that wouldn't mess anything up at all with players after 1.21 and play style. BST and SMN will not come into the game until after v2.0 along with the pet system because they are full on pet classes. DRG will stand out from what we have at 1.21 (since none of the jobs are in yet you can't say now) because of the traditional DRG type abilities/items...

    The cat is bemused =-.-=
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanfire View Post
    like the none that exist right now? Other then BST/SMN/PUP (pup being like DRG where you fight alongside your pet) there isnt much out there. Giving DRG a pet makes them stand out between what we have now, which is not much more then WS differences and some minor skills that set 3 of them apart. If they dont do something really interesting with DRG, its going to feel like a WAR varient.

    and again, they can do w/e the hell they want with lore, its mostly shot to hell with all the changes til 2.0 anyway.
    With Summoner being a confirmed job, deriving from a class, lets call for now Tamer. Also, Beastmaster also a confirmed future job. That is two pet jobs we are getting, why does DRG need one? Why do we need a pet to stand out? If I recall, Jump and dragon like abilities is what makes Dragoon stand out.

    btw id really love to see the other regions opinions on this. is there no-one here who could translate and see what the others think. Particularly the JP (they get more of a say, don't kid yourself)

    with so many posts about this it seems like someone would have done this by now.
    JP: Gatherers should have pets!
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  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onji_T View Post
    The wyvern has a place in ffxiv and it's at the end of my lance.
    This is all very swell and probably works well in your head, you probably envision dragoon as an epic knight that slays dragons and saves the day and all that. But how is it going to work, really? I dragoon going to be the dragon killer? Is it going to outdo all other classes when it comes to dealing with dragon enemies? It makes more sense to see you in the belly of a dragon, really.

    A dragon is going to be on the tip of your spear as much as on the end of a MNKs punch and in the end of the arm of a future DDing job. New flash, you aren't kaim Highwind, you aren't playing the SNES, you are playing an MMO where all classes are supposed to be equally balanced. Dragoon might just turn out in the end to be a DD that is obsessed with dragons, doesn't brush it's teeth to have a terrible breath and just turns out to be good at doing critical attacks.

    Maybe there is some lore in there to convince you of otherwise and maybe you have a pretentious skill called "dragon slayer" and you dress up like Kaim, but in the end you might as well be as much of a dragonslayer as the person standing next to you.

    Now that's the real gimmick.
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  10. #110
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    Then DRG would be OP..
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