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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    well consistency would be nice lol. should work on all of them not just some
    Yeah, always hate the lack of consistency on such moves.
    Even tempered/surecast dont always stop push backs.

    depending on server ticks, even a perfectly times gap closer, with a flexible window, can still fail to bring you back to the boss.

    But for the sake of diverse gameplay between tanks, being able to survive knockbacks is important, but the method to do so doesnt need to be the same.
    (this is why WARs gap closer is a DPS loss, since they originally had holmgang for this, and sometimes holmgang works less often than tempered will)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    (this is why WARs gap closer is a DPS loss, since they originally had holmgang for this, and sometimes holmgang works less often than tempered will)
    Unless it's not. For example using it during vacuum wave knockback animation, pop too early you still get pushed back then have no gap closer, pop it late and your forced to run into range before you can use it, but pop it at just the right time and it's like you never moved, that's gotta save at least 2 gcds compared to the other scenarios. Besides, WAR has 2 anti-knockback abilities (holmgang & Inner Release), but obviously you don't just use them to prevent a knockback. So that's why it's nice to have a short 15-sec gap closer - you can use the other abilities for their actual purpose.

    Aside from all that, I know it makes my pally partner super jealous when he sees me fly back into the action
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Unless it's not. For example using it during vacuum wave knockback animation, pop too early you still get pushed back then have no gap closer, pop it late and your forced to run into range before you can use it, but pop it at just the right time and it's like you never moved, that's gotta save at least 2 gcds compared to the other scenarios. Besides, WAR has 2 anti-knockback abilities (holmgang & Inner Release), but obviously you don't just use them to prevent a knockback. So that's why it's nice to have a short 15-sec gap closer - you can use the other abilities for their actual purpose.

    Aside from all that, I know it makes my pally partner super jealous when he sees me fly back into the action
    Yeah, you're technically right.

    Though on an unrelated note, as I mentioned before about sure cast not always working, I think, Im starting to see whats causing the issue.
    I think there is a glitch that if you have dual cast proc up, and then hit sure cast, either the next spell consumes both dual cast and surecast, or the enemies push back consumes the surecast buff.

    Either way, im not sure, but it seemed to only happen when dual cast proc was up.

    I took my time for one fight, hit sure cast, checked to make sure it wnet off, wasnt moving or casting, saw it just now went on CD, went to continue the fight, and noticed it wasnt on my buff bar.
    I popped it 1 second before exdeath started up vacuum wave, so i know it didnt wear off, and nor did i activate it too late.
    And of course I got knocked back.
    kept checking my buff bar to make sure it was there after that. and one more time, it happened again, it was on CD, but no buff showed up, and the only thing in common was dual cast being up.
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