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  1. #21
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    silverlunarfox's Avatar
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    Loki Lux
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    Lamia
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirarara View Post
    Again, if you can't get a fc house with 500 members compared to some individual which get both a personal and fc house, you probably can't get a fc house even with those restriction.
    This makes me appreciate my smaller server that much more. But as with the quote above, it simply won't matter even with the restriction. Not everyone can get a house the way it is, and there is no easy answer to fix the issue the way the housing stands now unless they completely did away with the current model, which they show no interest in doing. Good luck on opening day however!
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  2. #22
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    Stormfur's Avatar
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    Hex Pathcrosser
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 72
    What they really should have done (and maybe they will do this in the future, who knows), is to have a separate section of each ward entirely for FC houses. Just mansions in that district. If you were to move there, you'd get bonuses similar to the bonuses that people got when they went to less populated servers - like an XP bonus for the FC plus the players. Probably now that the moving system is in place, they can look at something like this to encourage FCs to move to an FC-only ward - thus freeing up more houses in general areas. Northern Gridania sounds like a likely spot to start with. Doesn't that idiot guard say something like "this is reserved for Gridanian elites" (as if saving the world from utter catastrophe doesn't count)
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  3. #23
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    Arazehl's Avatar
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    Julianna Arrisit
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 90

    I think this is sad.

    Housing in FFXIV is quite unfair, especially for Free Company housing. It has a greater need than those just wanting to own a home privately. I even feel it should take precedence over those wanting ownership of private large/medium homes, especially.

    I feel SE could open a residential area up just for FC Estate halls to be located, leaving private homes elsewhere for purchase. I mean in real life we have subdivisions that are just zoned exclusively for private homes and industrial parks for businesses and the like. It makes sense in this regard, why not in game?

    Sadly Shirogane is going to be yet another one of SE's hot messes, that they don't care to be bothered with fixing the problem or code a fix in for it. They just let us "deal with it" and hope we get over it.
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  4. #24
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    Astral145's Avatar
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    Astral Flame
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleSparrow View Post
    Why would FCs be more important than individuals? That's unfair to people who don't own an FC or prefer to stay on their own. Owning an FC doesn't give you privileges over other players.
    Guess you haven't heard of company airships. The FC needs a house to use airships simple as that. Also the FC needs a house so everyone in the FC can have a room for themselves and enjoy some of the benefits of housing. SO yea FC's should have priority over housing vs individual players.
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    Last edited by Astral145; 09-16-2017 at 05:34 AM.

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  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleSparrow View Post
    Why would FCs be more important than individuals? That's unfair to people who don't own an FC or prefer to stay on their own. Owning an FC doesn't give you privileges over other players.
    FC houses aren't just for FC owners, it's not a 1 to 1 comparison. FC houses are for more than 1 person. If an FC has 20 active players that's definitely more useful than a personal house for 1 person.

    Yes, there's a way to end up with FCs that only has 1 character in it but that's a different issue.
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  6. #26
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    Rosekitten's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Ganbaatar Lundr
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    I'm still on board with the group saying they need to take the current housing system down and revamp the whole darn thing. It's silly a company can't get a place to set up gardens, stables, rooms and the workshop for it's group. But sadly I don't see the system being reworked and even if they add more wards I doubt it'll be enough to fix the issue. On my server there is two folks owning an entire ward (yes I know the argument they got them before the server became flooded, don't bring it up here). But I can also tell you a fair number of Free Companies and personal home owners who own multiple lots in various wards.

    My husband and I managed to get a small house, just so I could work on the gardening stuff and get it started for when we finally get a med-large building for the Fc. As soon as we get the Fc plot we'll be clearing out the small house and I'll give up the apartment I have (mainly for holding furnishings). It's not a lot but we figured that at least gave some others chances at housing as well (also by give up I don't mean re-sell the plot for 30mil for profit.. I mean up and leave or if I happen to know of a FC who needs/wants a plot at the time I'll make sure they get first call on it).

    Really I do think personal and FC should be in different wards or locations. I'd rather see a Fc get a house and it's members get personal rooms rather than everyone spread out and trying to locate apartments all over the world just to hang out.
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  7. #27
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    ChewieFlakes's Avatar
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    Yunalesca Syl
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 100
    How did you get it in your head that a week head-start to allow FC's to monopolize every single house plot in the new district is a good idea? No matter what, the housing rush will be hell because the housing system is inherently broken and HORRIBLY designed. Just grit your teeth and feel the disappointment like 98% of the player base
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  8. #28
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    Bloodkraft's Avatar
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    Bloodkraft Hades
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    Goblin
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    Arcanist Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    FC houses aren't just for FC owners, it's not a 1 to 1 comparison. FC houses are for more than 1 person. If an FC has 20 active players that's definitely more useful than a personal house for 1 person.

    Yes, there's a way to end up with FCs that only has 1 character in it but that's a different issue.
    I know of several FC's that are single player only owned - Just because it's an FC don't assume it's for allot of people!

    Quote Originally Posted by Astral145 View Post
    Also the FC needs a house so everyone in the FC can have a room for themselves and enjoy some of the benefits of housing. SO yea FC's should have priority over housing vs individual players.
    This is why they have apartments - no longer needed in FC's
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  9. #29
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    Dustytome's Avatar
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    Fox Briarthorn
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    Sargatanas
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    Culinarian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rosekitten View Post
    I'll give up the apartment I have (mainly for holding furnishings).
    I'd keep the apartment for a nice little self space or additional storage. Remember there's 90 apartments in each ward/subdivision (8,640 total when Shirogane is open) and they have yet to fill up completely on all but one server thus far so it's unlikely you're taking the opportunity to have one away from anyone.
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  10. #30
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    Julianna Arrisit
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleSparrow View Post
    Why would FCs be more important than individuals? That's unfair to people who don't own an FC or prefer to stay on their own. Owning an FC doesn't give you privileges over other players.
    There are 72 large plots to each residential area and thousands of people with growing FC's. I see tons of privately owned homes that you rarely see the owner once they put up their pretty furnishings. Maybe only a split second to zone into their house to keep it from being demolished, every 45 days.

    We use our FC as a place to plan, craft and work for the the ease of progression in game for the whole of the FC and it's members. Obviously you never ran an FC or guild in this game or any other game. So your selfish argument is squashed. FC 's are far more beneficial than your decorating just for your self satisfaction of owning something that just going to sit there and look pretty.
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