Let's talk about Hunts - a detailed rundown of their assumed mechanics

[Luna_Li]

Was anyone able to filter out the exact requirements for Udumbara yet?

[Raida]

With one friend, we spawned S&L with 52 items one per one on Cerberus. 50 seems maybe true

[eucharistica]

Can confirm, even if it's a fluke, that Salt and Light spawned when I threw away my 50th boiled egg. Will be testing it again in another instance.

[NoboruSouma]

As harsh as it may sounds: I call bs on the "50 items for S&L"-theory. Let me explain why:

There are many factors you have to consider:

Only because the window that we know so far is open it doesn't mean that he can be spawned at the point you try.
Example: If you try it at 100 hours after the last kill it can still be too early and no item you discard will count.
Another one: If you throw away 50 items .. which .. let's say .. takes around 100 seconds roughly .. His window could just open at around 89 seconds in and the last few items can trigger him.

Yet another example would be:
You never know how many people tried him before you did. We have many hardcore-spawners on Louisoix - they spawn day and night .. almost like a shift change .. so the window for S&L could open at any time - even if someone else already threw away countless amounts of items, yet you get the spawn by throwing away only 12 items or so.
And you never know exactly if someone else doesn't join the area after you and tries it at the same time.
Many people don't even bother to answer if they are in a zone.

So .. conclusion would be that we still have more testing to do. I know that the hints aren't giving away details about an exact amount yet I believe that this hint is good that the Goblin only threw one item into the water and not many items.
I think that there is no threshold for S&L and any item you discard can trigger him - and not 50.
By all that we know we would need hundreds of attempts to get a close percentage if the 50 is true - about 10 or so are not enough.
I remember that we did so so many tries for Leucrotta across the data center to get down to the 50/50/50 - took us weeks ..

[insearch78]

I've spawned SnL a few times with just 50 lugworms.

[KageTokage]

Every time Salt and Light has spawned for me, it happened in less then 10 items discarded.

I feel like it just has a high chance to spawn as long as the window is open, but nothing else.

[Dimagasa]

Given how less than statistically reliable the game's RNG algorithm can be for smaller sample sizes if the rate to spawn SnL was 1% or less then it would require far more than 50 to spawn on a consistent basis. 2-5% would be streaky as well, so rather then attaching a % roll to every discard would it not be simpler from a coding perspective to generate an integer counter between 1-100 for # of discards required once the trigger is active?

None of Stormblood's trigger conditions appear to be based on a low percent chance, but either binary for Gamma/Orghana or counter based for Okina/Udumbara. We can't assume SnL and Bone Crawler deviate from that and go back to % chances.

[alimdia]

Spawned 6 times, all 6 right in front of your face, right when you dropped the 50th item? Naaah that sounds like an embellished story.

Not to mention, if it spawns somewhere else in the zone, how do you know it was the 50th item and not the 23rd or 37th?

[insearch78]

Not to mention, if it spawns somewhere else in the zone, how do you know it was the 50th item and not the 23rd or 37th?

The people in the hunt ls know right when the S ranks spawn, just not where. I wouldn't know how since I play on ps4.

[Dimagasa]

edit: I stand corrected.