PVP Ranking Idea

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

If my memory serves, we got an official no on top 100 per role in a recent interview

[Wintersandman]

If my memory serves, we got an official no on top 100 per role in a recent interview

I said top 25 per role which would also be locked into 100 people as it is currently.

That would require a lock on the role/job someone will be using before queueing on his first ranked match of the season. I don't think is good idea.

No it wouldn't. It would have the player commit to a role they were best in. You could do your first 12 matches as the various jobs to find out what you were best at. Then at some point yes you would commit. But aren't most people committed to their roles?

[Cynric]

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What he means I think is that we'd have to lock the role/job you start playing as, ie. when I started this season I queued as Samurai, if for some reason I wanted to switch to monk/bard, I'd be locked out of switching.

And no, actually, a lot of people switch quite a bit, quite a bit of the healers on the board(aether) actually aren't healer main. That's just the role that they had most luck with this season.

If the system was changed to what you say, it's actually likely that the amount of healers currently on the board would go down.

While not likely to happen, I would agree that if this were to happen, a role lock/job lock would be a requirement. Otherwise we'd run into a situation down the road where say, Player A has 2000 Melee/Ranged/Healer rating and is number 1 on every board on one character. It'd be similar to the current alt situation but worse.

I also feel like Top 25 per role is very different than Top 100 in general.

For example, many players currently queue as ranged DPS, while less players queue as melee DPS, The melee boards would be far easier to climb than the ranged boards.

While Top 100 in it's current iteration is far from perfect, I don't think this is a proper deviation from the formula and likely why we were told no.

[Wintersandman]

Stuff.

I never said Job/Role Lock. That would be ridiculous. If you found out you weren't ranking up among the melee group you can switch to healer. You would have to start from 0 but you could still switch.

When I said people committed to their jobs. Generally if you start feast as a Monk, you're typically not going to switch to Dragoon in the middle of the season. TYPICALLY being the keyword.

[Cynric]

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No one is saying you said the thing about locking, You're misunderstanding. The person you originally quoted said it would have to be that way, and I agreed with them. There should be some type of lock.

People will definitely switch if nerfs/buffs happen mid season as they are currently. It happens in every competitive game. It's actually quite common to switch things up if your job/character/role are nerfed or another is buffed heavily.

That said, however, if you were to start from zero every time you switched that wouldn't be very different than a lock honestly, and would fix the ability to be on multiple boards being a problem.

Conversely if you were able to keep your rating, the issue would still stand.

I can't really think of a way to make a Top 25 per role similar to the Top 100 players overall at this time.


If player A were to attain 2000 Rating as Healer/Melee/Ranged, you'd have One player effectively taking up 3 slots out of a Top "100" and one slot of each Top 25, It would only take 10 well versed players to Turn a Top 25 into a Top 15 (ish) per role.

[Wintersandman]

If player A were to attain 2000 Rating as Healer/Melee/Ranged, you'd have One player effectively taking up 3 slots out of a Top "100" and one slot of each Top 25, It would only take 10 well versed players to Turn a Top 25 into a Top 15 (ish) per role.

I would respond and say that if one person really took up multiple spots then the other people should get good. If you have one person focusing on just one role then they should out perform someone who is constantly switching. The odds are in that persons favor to have a higher rating by sticking to the role.