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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliantheae View Post
    Edda would fun.
    OH HELL YES TO THAT

    In all seriousness, Nidhogg was probably the best developed villian in FFXIV, but him being a huge dragon complicates it. Unless it's Nidstinien, but Estinien is a Kain archetype, and Kain's playable.

    The issue with Garlean characters is with them being inspired visually by Judges of FFXII, that would make implementing them a little repetitive, as we have one. The Ascians suffer from very little individual identity, minus the mostly non-combative Elidibus.

    Edda's one of the few iconic "baddies" that could feasibly be implemented, and I think her design could grab a few non-FFXIV players, but I feel like FFXIV will just follow suit of FFXI and have multible hero characters.

    They have a much larger, better cast to choose from that could add a new flavor of gameplay. Alphinaud could work with his role being pet job could bring some new ideas not possible on the PSP.

    Or a Manderville.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    The issue with Garlean characters is with them being inspired visually by Judges of FFXII, that would make implementing them a little repetitive, as we have one.
    Which is why Nael would be perfect. Not even the Judges transform into a humanoid Dragon with Bahamut's likeness (I wonder what her summon quote for Bahamut would be).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Which is why Nael would be perfect. Not even the Judges transform into a humanoid Dragon with Bahamut's likeness (I wonder what her summon quote for Bahamut would be).
    That brings up a concern gameplay wise as if Neal goes into "Eula loves Bahamut" mode, isn't that just edging in on Terra's gameplay when she goes all Esper?

    It's not just visuals that need to be thought about when considering a new character.

    That said Nael isn't a bad choice thematically if they willingly embrace the whole Eula switch over the White Raven moniker. Perhaps instead go in a similar direction of Smash Bros Corrin, where instead of being a sort of form she can build into, she goes dragon-esque like attack by attack. Or, heck, keep her in dragon form the entire time.
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    Any Lalafell would be my choice.
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    I know it'll never happen, but it'd be so awesome if Ser Zephirin was the villain and he could change into the Knights of the Round form and do his signature aetheric javelin toss while saying "you shall fall as did your ally".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    That brings up a concern gameplay wise as if Neal goes into "Eula loves Bahamut" mode, isn't that just edging in on Terra's gameplay when she goes all Esper?
    Well there's apparently going to be up to 50 characters in the game, so I imagine there'd be a few similar EX abilities.
    Terra and Zidane both use Trance as their EX ability, however Terra's increases her STR, MAG and SPD, whereas Zidane's does a thing for his Steal, as well as allow him to dash for much longer and removes debuffs.

    For Nael, her EX Ability can just be called 'Bahamut's Favour,' which increases her attack power. When she does it a third time, she transforms (permanent unless KO'd). Increased attack power, Brave Regen and movement (this would make her slightly similar to Kuja's EX instead).

    Actually, something else. Lunar Dynamo. It'll still work similarly to the previous idea, but instead it has to actually hit someone. It will either need to be used 1-3 times (depending on how many get hit by it) before you can even transform (and it follows similar rules to FFXIV's. Target must not be too far and not too close). Drains 500 Brave and some HP as well. Changes into Bahamut's Favour after transformation.
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    Last edited by Nestama; 09-05-2017 at 03:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightroad View Post
    Any Lalafell would be my choice.
    We already have Shantotto, and I feel that's enough. Not one Lalafell character in XIV is as iconic as Shantotto... not one, even from a villain sense. Yeah Yuyuhase and Lolorito are butts but they're not 'special' butts.

    As far as putting someone in from XIV other than everyone's favorite catgirl (not really), I would think Zenos would be good for the villain side. I preferred him over Gaius or even Nael from 1.0.
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    I'd personally opt against anyone currently dead since they're going to be pretty irrelevant for a bulk of the game.

    But if we move beyond the concept of a villain, Hildibrand would be a fun choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    That brings up a concern gameplay wise as if Neal goes into "Eula loves Bahamut" mode, isn't that just edging in on Terra's gameplay when she goes all Esper?

    It's not just visuals that need to be thought about when considering a new character.

    That said Nael isn't a bad choice thematically if they willingly embrace the whole Eula switch over the White Raven moniker. Perhaps instead go in a similar direction of Smash Bros Corrin, where instead of being a sort of form she can build into, she goes dragon-esque like attack by attack. Or, heck, keep her in dragon form the entire time.
    They could make it so that her super form alters how her attacks behave, similar to Gabranth. But make her less useless outside of that form. <_<
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    Well, hell if 50 characters is the end goal, slap Neal in. Let the White Raven rise! At least I'd rather her than Gaius, whose popularity on the forum is something I don't have any semblance of understanding. Nero'd be better for that with his rocket hammer and gadgets if we want a Garlean.

    Actually Nero would be pretty rad in the long run as the "bad" representative.

    I want Edda now that the bug's in my ear, but an overall cast that size in NT does open up more unusual possibilities and more options. I would love Hildibrand, but we've never seen him in combat, so that could either mean he's got no chance at all, or that the devs could have a ball doing whatever to make it hilarious. Nashu could tag team him and use her bombs. He would make a pretty flawless option for the "joke" character of Dissidia.

    Also, why is everyone salty about Y'shtola being the FFXIV rep of the franchise? She's not my favorite either but I think she's the best choice out of the Scions to use across the board, ugly 1.0 gear and all.

    Anyway, I think, other than Alphi, Yugiri would be a hit as a representative of FFXIV. She already has 2 familiar costumes, and while Lyse has as much/more story relevancy, Yugiri being our first instance of the Auri race made especially for FFXIV could give her more appeal for the crossover.

    Plus, I fear them trying to implement Yda/Lyse would be a gargantuan spoiler for anyone considering FFXIV that hasn't jumped in yet, since you know there would be demand for her masked costume to be an option.
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    Last edited by Ametrine; 09-05-2017 at 04:25 PM. Reason: Clarity

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