Warrior of Light: A Mindless Killer

[Theodric]

I've made it no secret that I deliberately inject a bit of humour into my posts to liven things up a little. Do you really think I'm being wholly serious when I say stuff like 'we can take comfort in the righteousness of my cause'?

You're welcome to read through my posts because you'll quickly find that I post across multiple forum sections about all sorts of different subjects, be it lore related or otherwise. To pretend as if I only focus on one specific niche is simply dishonest - but it ties in with what I brought up earlier; that some people are so focused on trying to control a narrative and 'beat' their opponents that they do not pause to consider what, exactly, the people on the other side are even trying to put across.

Much like anything related to political discourse in in the modern day, really. Point out that maybe a particular situation is more complicated than it is painted at and people lose their minds.

If people want to pretend as if Hydaelyn isn't a dark and dangerous world then that's on them. The game does an excellent job at world building and making each of the nations we visit far from pure and righteous. They have their downsides and redeeming elements both and I think it does the game a major disservice to pretend as if it's dark and gritty for the sake of being dark and gritty. Nor have I ever suggested that things should be dark and gritty for the sake of it - merely that I'd like to see the fallout of certain events given more screen time.

I've also often suggested that I'm partly to blame for the dead horses being beaten. As it stands, though, I'm the only one proposing to agree to disagree. So, as ever, I shall continue to take comfort in the righteousness of my cause.

In regards to my posts, though, if people were truly paying attention then they'd know that my favourite games including FFXII and FFIX. I've simply pushed for more themes to be explored along the lines of those displayed in each game - and in FFIX's case in particular they're hardly the epitome of 'dark and gritty' on the surface. I like Moogles quite a lot, so much so that I've proposed adding more Moogle delivery quests multiple times on this very board - both for the sake of nostalgia for FFIX's sidequests and because it's a great way to revisit NPC's and flesh out the game world further. Though I guess that doesn't fit the narrative and thus hasn't been listed, eh? Along with anything else similar.

Oh well.

[Scremin]

Hey Theodoric, I hope I don't start a fight here, but I believe this bears saying....

Many people are guilty of this, but I believe you are certainly one of the most guilty. You redirect criticism and sit on your high horse rather than self-reflecting. Sometimes I agree with your actual arguments about the nature of Garlemald, sometimes I do not, but your manner of delivering them can often be passive-combative and far more likely to provoke annoyance than reasonable discussion. In threads only tangentially related to Garlean issues and morality you bring up this topic again, and then go out of your way to lambast "some people" for holding different viewpoints, and for using arguing techniques which you yourself use. It's hypocritical.
The fact that you (because more often than not you are the instigator of the discussion) repeatedly do this is one of the things which has really soured my enjoyment of reading this subforum, which I used to count as the best community discussion board for this game, official or otherwise. Now I don't want to just target and abuse you, because there are others who also contribute to the unpleasantness, but as you catalyse so much, I beg you to self-reflect a little on the way you approach this.

I do not bear you any personal ill-will, and I hope you don't bear me any, but these feelings have stirred in me for awhile as I've browsed these Lore forums.

This...

That is just... kind of rich, coming from you, seeing as how most, if not all, the posts I've read from you seem to be about one of a few things:

- How this game needs to be a thousand times darker and grittier, because clearly we cannot have murder and moogles in the same game and Eorzea should be a dystopia. Because dark and gritty = good storytelling, and never, ever leads to Darkness Induced Audience Apathy.
- How the Garlean Empire is never as bad as they seem.
- How the Ascians are not as bad as they seem.
- How our protagonists are even worse than the previous two.

And this are the reasons why I don't even read when i see a post reply with his name on it...

[WhiteArchmage]

I've made it no secret that I deliberately inject a bit of humour into my posts to liven things up a little. Do you really think I'm being wholly serious when I say stuff like 'we can take comfort in the righteousness of my cause'?

I really, really, REALLY, didn't want to get involved in this but: intentions such as dark humor, sarcasm, and assorted "tones" are very hard to convey through text. This goes for you and Cilia, who's also fond of using sarcasm in their posts, making them come across as insulting where no insult was (I hope) intended. Your second post on this discussion, intentionally or not, came across as very insulting, thus the whole diatribe; add a "(joking)" or "/sarcasm" or another marker, otherwise you're giving free reign (this goes for everyone) for anyone to misread your intentions.