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  1. #11711
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    Cenerae's Avatar
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    Cenerae Ten'aire
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    Gilgamesh
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MoonFluff View Post
    Ok so I'm starting to get really mad at people and frustrated lol. I did Susan Normal on WHM with another WHM. All the other healer did was use Medica 2 every once and a while and that was it, no dots or anything just chilling. We wiped at sword phase because OT didn't do mechanic no biggie. Next time near the end of the fight, no one has died, I'm healing and making sure to aero and do a few stones when I can. "MoonFluff can you stop dpsing and focus on healing pls?"

    "Uh what? No one is dying why..?"

    No response. Okay I guess I should just sit there in fights and do nothing then but overheal. :/
    No no, clearly they expected you to stand there and twiddle your thumbs and contribute nothing in between occasional medica II casts.
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  2. #11712
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    Heliantheae's Avatar
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    Ekhi Ysengrim
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    Brynhildr
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I'm learning WAR and make mistakes. I've been taken it slow and keeping my tank stance. Doing Bardam's, I was feeling adventurous, and I grabbed the birds and rock monsters. I mistimed some stuff and wiped. One of the DPS just leaves. There was no problems before that and I grabbed small after that. Finished pretty quickly too. Went back in and finished that run before that one DPS's penalty was up. So what was the point? If you leave at one wipe, when there were no problems before. You just took a thirty minute timeout, on top of your DPS queue times. Why? That's a huge waste of time. A lot more than the few seconds it takes to run back.
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  3. #11713
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    Lyrai_Celestine's Avatar
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    Lyrai Celestine
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Heliantheae View Post
    snip snip~
    The good thing about leavers are that they are rightly punished for abandoning you. Rest assured, everything is fair

    Quote Originally Posted by MoonFluff View Post
    Ok so I'm starting to get really mad at people and frustrated lol. Next time near the end of the fight, no one has died, I'm healing and making sure to aero and do a few stones when I can. "MoonFluff can you stop dpsing and focus on healing pls?"

    "Uh what? No one is dying why..?"

    No response. Okay I guess I should just sit there in fights and do nothing then but overheal. :/
    Oh that's rude. They think they're right and you are wrong, when results show obviously that their HP is in the healer's hands. I guess the best solution is to just follow for this one run to avoid fights. :/

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhus View Post
    Snip snip~
    You have all the rights to be less perceptive of the situation as you're still a beginner. Those DPS running amok on their own is showing a bad example. This shouldn't happen. Thing is, In Toto-rak ONLY, the dungeon has multiple paths which turned out to be a bad design. On my first run there, I am just as confused as you are... if I were the DPS, I would always beckon to the newbie to guide him / her through the right path. I recommend asking in the Novice Channel for help.
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    Last edited by Lyrai_Celestine; 08-30-2017 at 12:30 PM.

  4. #11714
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    micropanther7's Avatar
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    Peony Foxbriar
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by MoonFluff View Post
    Ok so I'm starting to get really mad at people and frustrated lol. I did Susan Normal on WHM with another WHM. All the other healer did was use Medica 2 every once and a while and that was it, no dots or anything just chilling. We wiped at sword phase because OT didn't do mechanic no biggie. Next time near the end of the fight, no one has died, I'm healing and making sure to aero and do a few stones when I can. "MoonFluff can you stop dpsing and focus on healing pls?"

    "Uh what? No one is dying why..?"

    No response. Okay I guess I should just sit there in fights and do nothing then but overheal. :/
    I can't believe your healer was using just Medica 2, jeeeeze... if they comfortable healing in there and doing nowt else, that's flippin' lazy.

    I finally went into Susano normal after three weeks of not healing in dungeons lol, was a bit rough. My fellow co-healer might have been a first timer too, she was an AST, the only quibble was I wish she'd thrown a bole or two on the tanks during Stormsplitter, not necessary though. Only cos they were squishy :/ DPS were dying everywhere, me and her must have raised about several thousand times We beat the blighter though, I was surprised I got four comms and I'm hoping she got the other four

    Edited to add: Shisui of the Violet Tides, level 60 tank doing mass pulls, barely keeping them alive... and complaining when people aren't rolling on drops, because they were in a cutscene Aaaah lovely DF, such wonderful people
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    Last edited by micropanther7; 08-30-2017 at 07:07 PM.

  5. #11715
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    Zefiris's Avatar
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    Limwris Abriel
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    I was doing roulette expert now as bard and a ninja started to complain about I was not using Quick Nock. Well, particularly prefer to put dot in each one of enemies and to use Rain of Death when available. As I foresaw that I was going to be kicked of instance, only said Sorry and leaves by own wish.
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  6. #11716
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    Heliantheae's Avatar
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    Ekhi Ysengrim
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Me two years ago: Oh, Shikuchi doesn't make you immune to ground AoEs.
    Me five minutes ago: Wonder if I can Onslaught through this minefield?
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  7. #11717
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    MoonFluff's Avatar
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    Meyu Chelewae
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 64
    Ok I'm glad I'm not going crazy. It helps me to type it out here so I'm less stressed about it, because for some reason these thing stress me out a lot. :S
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  8. #11718
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    Spiroglyph's Avatar
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    Soft Boiled
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zefiris View Post
    I was doing roulette expert now as bard and a ninja started to complain about I was not using Quick Nock. Well, particularly prefer to put dot in each one of enemies and to use Rain of Death when available. As I foresaw that I was going to be kicked of instance, only said Sorry and leaves by own wish.
    You handled the confrontation with another player well, if you knew a vote kick was going to happen.

    The pull, though, not so much :/

    Putting up dots on every single target in big pulls takes a LONG time (you mentioned expert so I'm just assuming tank was doing mega pulls), it's inefficient as they'll wear off targets by the time you get back to them, and prolonging mob lifespan takes heavy tolls on everyone else:

    The tank, who's going to run out of cooldowns/TP/MP/HP fast
    The healer, who will likely run out of MP fast and thus won't be able to do much healing nor DPSing
    Your co-dps - as a ninja they'll be spamming high TP cost aoe skills, and will run out of TP fast

    Sorry to say this but I'd have called you out on that as well :/
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    Last edited by Spiroglyph; 08-31-2017 at 03:13 AM.

  9. #11719
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    Zefiris's Avatar
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    Limwris Abriel
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Well, I always played this way and does not seem to interfere too much. For example, doing Lost Canals of Uznair with 2 friends and we finish last week. Was warrior, white mage and me as bard (only 1 dps in party). And I always use Tactician and Refresh for help MP/TP of party members, besides Palisade and Nature's Minne on tank :/
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  10. #11720
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Cassandra Solidor
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Heliantheae View Post
    Me two years ago: Oh, Shikuchi doesn't make you immune to ground AoEs.
    Me five minutes ago: Wonder if I can Onslaught through this minefield?
    Funny thing about that. You can Onslaught through Black Holes in both Normal and Savage, provided you clip all the way through. Our WAR tried it for giggles. The game thinks you're still at your starting spot until you connect with the target. It's rarely ever worth doing but no less ridiculous.
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