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  1. #21
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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Xoria Tepes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    How many people do you see out in the neighborhoods? Even on Balmung, unless someone is hosting an rp event on the Mist's beaches, the wards are usually ghost towns.
    Pretty much this why I have said instanced housing. Even large FCs, the people are usually inside (if at all) than outside. The idea of being able to see and interact with neighbors is a charming idea. The reality of it is an incredibly rare encounter. I definitely encourage SE to drop open world houses for instanced ones that everyone has the potential to own. If they are seriously worried about server space/ stability/ cost, gate it behind Mogstation like retainers or convert inn [rooms] to personal space/ housing that can be upgraded and personalized. I doubt anyone uses inn rooms.
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    R'lileen Min'enoth
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
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    +1

    The only neighborhoods we could see were when it was FC's only. Since it is personal housing, most of time (always?) you don't see anyone.
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  3. #23
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    Rymmrael Bhaldraelwyn
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    If they are seriously worried about server space/ stability/ cost, gate it behind Mogstation like retainers or convert inn [rooms] to personal space/ housing that can be upgraded and personalized. I doubt anyone uses inn rooms.
    Please, not the 'paid housing a sub mmo' debate again. Didn't we have a couple of entire threads about this already? It's a bad idea, housing is and should remain a feature available through in-game means. As for the inn rooms, just because you don't use them, doesn't mean that no one does. I always try to log out in an inn room when I know that I'm either not going to be playing for a few days or that next time I log in, I'm going to be doing a lot of xp grinding. I have serious doubts that eliminating that one feature will magically fix the hot mess that is housing.

    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    Pretty much this why I have said instanced housing. Even large FCs, the people are usually inside (if at all) than outside. The idea of being able to see and interact with neighbors is a charming idea. The reality of it is an incredibly rare encounter. I definitely encourage SE to drop open world houses for instanced ones that everyone has the potential to own.
    Now, I really doubt that SE is willing to 'drop' the housing wards at this stage in the game. They've stuck to their guns on it for too long, either out of pure stubbornness or they are just that out of touch with the player base (I honestly don't know which is worse.) I really don't think they can or even should get rid of the wards due to the players who already have homes and who like the neighborhood models.

    However, I don't see any problem whatsoever with them focusing on instanced housing going forward. Since the advent of apartments, and even before that in the speculative threads leading up to their release, I have always felt that they had the potential to be the housing solution. The initial size and limitations of them were a bit of a let down, but I still feel like they were a baby-step in the right direction. All SE has to do is expand on the foundation they have laid. They can accomplish this by:
    -offering a means (paying gil) to upgrade the size of your apartment from the basic size it is now to something equating small/medium/large houses
    -adding to the house-sized apartments either some sort of balcony or greenhouse that facilitates proper gardening
    -allowing the owners of house-size apartments to have tenants
    -allowing FC leaders to purchase workshop space in whichever building they have an apartment in, to be accessed by their FC through the lobby of that building

    These very reasonable steps would go a long way to fixing the housing issue.
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    Last edited by Rymm; 08-19-2017 at 05:04 AM.

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    Richard Butte
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    Keep the wards but add deluxe apartments/condos that can be the size of small, medium and large houses in on the inside, since entering a house is just entering an instance anyway (which is why we can't see out of them in any capacity).
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    itti18's Avatar
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    Mystogan Faust
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    one house per account is fair for everyone imo
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  6. #26
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    Cylla Lightfall
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    Goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    Correct, I tried loging in the split second servers went up. I was disconnected twice. When I was finally able past that point I entered a 15 min queue. When I got in the game everything was gone.

    Upgrade servers plz, so we can have more housing and fix this issue too:
    Aye, same happened to me back when more housing was added. Got lobby error three times > 1000+ que. When I got in all the wards were filled and a handful of people in PF trying to flip them for 50-75mil if not more.
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    "Everyone has something they hold dear, something they never want to lose. That's why they pretend. That's why they hide the truth. And that's why they lie."

  7. #27
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    Dark-Saviour's Avatar
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    Dark Saviour
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    Cactuar
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    Carpenter Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rymm View Post
    Since the advent of apartments, and even before that in the speculative threads leading up to their release, I have always felt that they had the potential to be the housing solution.
    ...
    All SE has to do is expand on the foundation they have laid. They can accomplish this by:
    ...
    These very reasonable steps would go a long way to fixing the housing issue.
    Rather than just enhancing apartments, I'd say just introduce new instanced housing "zones". A plot of land deep in the Black Shroud, a mountaintop in Eastern Coerthas, a small island to the west of Vylbrand, etc.
    That way we can have even greater control; multiple buildings (which don't need the interiors loaded as separate instances), pools, shooting ranges, whatever.
    People that want to stick with the ghost towns could still do so, but I'd like an acre or so to do with what I will. :-(
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  8. #28
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    Pheryx Ramal
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    I feel like housing was meant for FCs according to the way they designed it.
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  9. #29
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    Junpei Iorii
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    While we're at it, when Shirogane opens up, everyone who has a house SHOULD NOT be able to own one in Shirogane.
    Stop the evergrowing problem in 4.1. This is the perfect time.
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    Princess Sakura
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    While we're at it, when Shirogane opens up, everyone who has a house SHOULD NOT be able to own one in Shirogane.
    Stop the evergrowing problem in 4.1. This is the perfect time.
    So people can't move when they advertised on that day people can move? that makes no sense... also what is your name on balmung?XD You asked a question that I want to have convo about.

    Assuming you mean something else, People can only 1 house, people get around this by leveling up alts and buying a house for private FC and a personal house for the alt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cylla View Post
    Aye, same happened to me back when more housing was added. Got lobby error three times > 1000+ que. When I got in all the wards were filled and a handful of people in PF trying to flip them for 50-75mil if not more.
    Yeah its BS, I hate the idea of getting a house because you are lucky beating out the bad server connection issues, and not that you simply earned it. On that note this high demand means the price is too low compared to the supply. When people complain about prices, people had 10 x less gil then we have now.
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    Last edited by Snow_Princess; 08-19-2017 at 06:45 AM.

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