Tank "Role Action" consolidated feedback thread.

[Jhett_Magnum]

Knowing what mitigation we have access to with the fixed recasts makes balancing content easier.

The only reason Rampart is in the cross role is because of PLDs Intervention.

Although I I do firmly agree that cross role should be utility only and not mitigation.
Provoke/Ultimatum
, Shirk, and Awareness should definitely stay.

[Tint]

the problem is they put two things together into the cross role system wich doesn't work together.

they should either put mandatory skills like mitigation and provoke into cross role so every tank has access to those skills all the time without choices.

or they should put situational skills into the cross role system with choices what to take.

but they put the two things together, so the only choice we have is which mandatory skill we don't take. and this doesn't feel good...

[SyzzleSpark]

asdf

You know, it completely escaped me until I read this (I guess because my brain is wired still that Rampart=PLD), that PLD is as far as I know the only job in the game with an explicitly stated and specific interaction between one of its job abilities and what is now a cross-role skill. Feels really, really weird.

[Aletin]

You know, it completely escaped me until I read this (I guess because my brain is wired still that Rampart=PLD), that PLD is as far as I know the only job in the game with an explicitly stated and specific interaction between one of its job abilities and what is now a cross-role skill. Feels really, really weird.

Not completely true, but mostly, SMN gains one more bahamut wyrmwave if they use addle (any action) within their Bahamut summoning

[SyzzleSpark]

Not completely true, but mostly, SMN gains one more bahamut wyrmwave if they use addle (any action) within their Bahamut summoning

Yeah, but the tooltip of Intervention SPECIFICALLY mentions Rampart. Its almost like SE knows the skill is mandatory... >.>

[Kalocin]

Yeah, but the tooltip of Intervention SPECIFICALLY mentions Rampart. Its almost like SE knows the skill is mandatory... >.>

Yeah it's really awkward, as encounters are even designed with rampart in mind usually. I think they really just need to make it so every tank has it baked in, it was kind of dumb to make it a removable option to begin with.

Also to OP: For all that is sane and unholy no way in hell would I want to lose more mitigation, let alone shadow wall, to the role skill pile.

[Starkbeaumont]

stuff like rampart, conva, anticipation, provoke, awaresness should be native to any tank. as someone mentioned in another topic cross class skills should be for utility (or situational) skills.
When they first talked about cross class skills i wasn't expecting that we still need to chose 5 out of 10 skills. At least SE could lift that restriction.

[mosaicex]

Yeah, but the tooltip of Intervention SPECIFICALLY mentions Rampart. Its almost like SE knows the skill is mandatory... >.>

You know, it completely escaped me until I read this (I guess because my brain is wired still that Rampart=PLD), that PLD is as far as I know the only job in the game with an explicitly stated and specific interaction between one of its job abilities and what is now a cross-role skill. Feels really, really weird.

There is also Eye for an Eye and SCH's Emergency Tactic.

[DRKoftheAzure]

have Reprisal, Low Blow, and Interject do 120 potency damage each and increase duration of Reprisal to 15 seconds and Inject's Silence duration to 5 seconds

[Jhett_Magnum]

I would really like to see bloodbath on the tank role action.

Wouldn't that make PLD even more powerful?