1 account buying 14 houses in 1 ward.

[Besame]

The worse housing in the whole MMO history... welcome in FFXIV

You nailed it, THE WORST!

[Besame]

Most MMOs don't even HAVE housing, let alone a system as detailed as FFXIV.

Wrong. Most do and they are way above this game.

[Drkdays]

Wrong. Most do and they are way above this game.

I hope you don't mean WoW garrisons, the only really comparable mmo to FF14 when it comes to quality.

[Besame]

Other than the rare FC party the wards on my system are dead. I have seen one player in my ward since I bought my house and to be honest it was kind of creepy as they sat down beside me without a word being said. Going to instanced housing with a common area that contains all of the amenities would actually make it feel more alive as you would see people much like you see in the cities.

My ward in the beds is full but void of people. been the same since I joined the game. Instances housing would make it so everyone could have a house and keep it open or not too public viewing.

[Penthea]

I hope you don't mean WoW garrisons, the only really comparable mmo to FF14 when it comes to quality.

WoW garrisons were basically FF's squadron system fused with a ghost town full of npcs with almost zero customisation to the point that everyone's garrison looked the same. You didn't even have your own bed to sleep in. It was horrendous on multiple levels. Great idea, abysmally terrible execution.

Honestly when it comes to housing from other games I mostly hear about how availability is far better than FF but the customisation rarely comes close.

[Aldotsk]

I hope you don't mean WoW garrisons, the only really comparable mmo to FF14 when it comes to quality.

I am pretty sure she meant most MMORPGs that are new generation post 2012 made. WoW still is using same engine since 2005 just with vamped up graphics. But their focus was never really based on housing or whatever.

[Besame]

I am pretty sure she meant most MMORPGs that are new generation post 2012 made. WoW still is using same engine since 2005 just with vamped up graphics. But their focus was never really based on housing or whatever.

You are correct Ald, although even SWtOR has this beat by a long ways in style, access to players, item amounts and the ability to gain special deco in most dungeons.

[Acilith]

Man I have nothing to say I haven't said on other threads but.

Besame. Your avatar haunts me. It's just.. HAUNTING. WHERE DID HER EYEBROWS GO?! WHERE ARE THEY?!

[MaikoRaines]

Blah Blah Blah

You talk a lot out of your ass for someone who apparently also has issues reading things, or at the very most, likes to assume. Since you like to name call people at the end of some of your arguments (Bye Felicia? Sick meme's bro) I guess I'm not finished this discussion with you.

Lets clarify some things.

I never once said or implied that the 28+ house hoarders should be punished in any sense. Not even the clowns who buy them up to sell them privately for 1000% mark up or etc. What I do support is full intervention from S-E and full reimbursement to those players who have multiple housing plots on the same account. Do you think that S-E is going to allow two people to hog up an entire housing ward/data center because of that sense of entitlement those two individuals feel? You'd be delusional to think S-E is going to give them a pat on the bum, say "good job! All your hard work paid off! Have a unique title because you're special!" and ignore that two people are using up an entire resource? Since S-E were the ones who said that housing wards take up an immense amount of resources.

You also assume that some of us (or assume me anyways) do not have houses. I have a mansion that I share with my FC mates. I don't need a house. I've been fighting this fight for a long time now for fairness of other players and FCs who want to benefit from housing. People like you downplay other people that state "housing isn't a NEED" which in itself is a pretty petty and scummy thing to do.

Just a game eh? That's awesome, give up half of your plots then to FCs who want one. Oh you won't because Paissa houses are ugly? Oh ok. (Sadfacepuppyeyes)

I say those people who hoard them should hold onto them until S-E does finally intervene. I also support 1 personal and one FC house per per world character maximum. You have a bunch of characters on the same server, choose the best one to have the houses. Done. Want more houses? Buy more accounts since you like to dual box.

The housing situation has been ignored for far too long and I would like to believe with all the traction this subject has been getting as of late, it'll be a matter of time before Square-Enix gets off their butts and address this as they should. I would like to predict that they're going to address Kugane housing before it drops. I doubt it's a simple matter of just dropping twelve wards and telling people to go to town.

[Venjamin]

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I mean, I could have said 'Bye Maiko' but it wouldn't have had the same dismissive tone as you were trying to give to me, so. Whatevs. I wouldn't really call that 'name calling,' but hey, whatever.

The implication that they should have their houses removed from them = punishment. Unless SE can suddenly give vouchers for the hours of life spent doing what they did, a gil compensation isn't going to cut it. It's hilarious that you use the phrase 'entitlement.' They are entitled to what they worked for, nothing more, nothing less. They are as entitled to those plots as someone is entitled to the mount they unlocked after running x runs of whatever-the-hell to get said mount. I never said SE should reward them. Just leave them alone. Those people used a resource when no one else was. The kicker here is that housing took up those resources regardless of when they were owned or not - so these two people buying up a ward actually did SE a favor - at least the ward was in use, rather than taking up server space for nothing.

I don't assume anything about you. When I say "you" with regards to house ownership or anything else, it's general 'you.' After all, you're on Excalibur ( according to your profile here ) which means you don't have a dog in the fight on Mateus at all.

Again, the 'just a game' applies one way. Because it's just a game, that means it's not a need. It's not a need for them, either, but they earned it, so they can choose to do with it what they please. I personally support instanced housing, because if it -is- a need, then everyone should have access to it, otherwise people who have one are just 'depriving a resource' from all the people that don't have one, right? It's funny - I don't have a house at all, and I'm fully in support of the people who buy as many as they want / can.

I'd love to see the housing situation improve, but not at the expense of players who put in a lot of time and effort to get what they have. Though honestly, with SE's track record on this issue, I would be really surprised if they -didn't- just drop the Kugane wards and tell everyone to go to town.