Extreme Undercutting - Should it be a violation?

[RichardButte]

I think its a free market and if Random Player # 4907 wants to sell the same fish as you for 1/10th the price, he has every right to do so. Is it stupid? Yep. Is it annoying? Yep. Is there anything likely to be done about it? Nope!

And no, I don't think extreme undercutting should get someone banned. What you consider 'extreme' might not be a big deal to them, and banning someone for posting an auction is just.. well its as dumb as the undercutting itself.

Yeah, extreme undercutting is facepalm-worthy, but not ban-worthy.

It's annoying as hell, too, and just as detrimental to those who do it, but as the old adage goes, "You can't heal stupid."...

[DarkDedede]

the ones I don't get are the ones who undercut NPC sell price.. just... sell it to the NPC's? it must be easier than listing it?

The game should just flush that stuff out automatically, as soon as it's put up for sale.

Seriously, no one is going to buy your animal skins, that you are selling for 1 gil. I see very little point in it taking up a listing slot. May as well save the seller some wait time and have the server make the sale.

[Kohdo]

Nope. People can learn to play the market or not. I don't need an external arbitrator deciding what a "reasonable" price is for me to sell my gigantoad hides at.

The market will right itself. Every time.

[NewSinz]

Could you imagine what the market boards would be like if there wasn't undercutting *shudder* Oh gawd.

[Zarabeth]

It's not all that big of a deal, though I do feel that the FF 11 style AH was better, since the way it worked tended to keep prices more stable. That said, here's my question: Why do so many people put things up on MB for prices LESS than vendors would have paid them?

I miss this too. What's better than getting a pair of dusk gloves for 1k because someone didn't want to pay the taxes to put em up for 3 mil?

[Melondra]

My advise with the market system is dont ever ever play the undercutting game. What i do is chek stack counts and find what stack counts sell for the most and adjust accordinalty. Your stuff will sell eventually so dont ever ever play the under-cutting game. Let the rest of those moron lose 1000,s of gill while your stuff sells for a good profit.

[Merryl]

Or you can buy the item and resell it for the the higher prices.
Makes this whole thread kinda pointless right?

[K3KW4RCHILD]

I love these threads. Just bottom out the price. Buy the impatient sellers item. Re-list everything back to the real market value. Profit. They get pissed off and don't come back. Better yet they rage cut and you buy an item at 90% off and flip it for even bigger profits. Then you come to the forum and read these threads with the biggest troll face smile ever.

[Paladinleeds]

I love these threads. Just bottom out the price. Buy the impatient sellers item. Re-list everything back to the real market value. Profit. They get pissed off and don't come back. Better yet they rage cut and you buy an item at 90% off and flip it for even bigger profits. Then you come to the forum and read these threads with the biggest troll face smile ever.

Actually, it was because someone told me I'd been griefing by undercutting and thus me reporting myself for it, and the GM's response, that this thread exists. But ya know, maybe the GMs should have permanently banned my entire SE account for it, as well as contacting every other game dev in the world to make sure I was permanently banned from their game without appeal as well. As well as having me banned from Xbox Live, PSN, Nintendo Network, etc, all without appeal. All for this? Would this be good enough for you?

EDIT: And it is at this point I ask the mods to close the entire thread.

[Princess_Momoka]

I think its a free market and if Random Player # 4907 wants to sell the same fish as you for 1/10th the price, he has every right to doso. Is it stupid? Yep. Is it annoying? Yep. Is there anything likely to be done about it? Nope!

And no, I don't think extreme undercutting should get someone banned. What you consider 'extreme' might not be a big deal to them, and banning someone for posting an auction is just.. well its as dumb as the undercutting itself.

Pretty much this. I will undercut war too a point, and that point is "Is this price worth my time?" Once that is no, I put up for a price where it is worth me dropping everything to replace it, and keep an eye on it if i want to change it to my equilibrium price in the future. (This means the undervalued ones sold and people are at price war in the range I like so I will join in) On my server there is a few named people that will undercut spam no matter what, I really hate how there is some people that find a way to play 24/7 and undercut spam but whatever, this point gil is literally useless atm so I am picky over selling things. I do not care if I still got 3.4 -250 stuff still listed, if they want it for a glam or whatever they pay my minimum threshold, if not they can wait, that simple. I do not understand how and what goes though people's minds selling a HQ product like the 250s back in the day for lower then the material cost. What really did not shock me though is when the people stop doing it, people bought my stuff again. (Meaning they didn't bother to replace and undercut war again)