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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    It's getting worse. Likely due to a lack of official condemnation and acknowledgement of the issue.

    Here's the latest Frontlines match I had:



    Those players remained there for the entire match. Clearly they were using some sort of illegal program because they moved every now and then but otherwise didn't do very much at all. By the end of the match none of them had contributed anything to damage or healing numbers. I've come to enjoy PvP in this game and it's a real shame to see it being infested with botters - it punishes and discourages legitimate players from bothering which will impact queue times if it does not get dealt with in a timely fashion.
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    Ove Minfy
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    Yeah, frontlines is really bad atm. I still see the same players running bots that got top matches on lodestone last week (and tbh the week before that). It's getting kind of embarrassing.
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  3. #43
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    Shut's Avatar
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    Kasu Kabe
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    Open lodestone at Fronlines ranking pages, you can even see whole FCs whose members have 6/7 class lvl 70 with + 400 match played. On other similar thread on the forum, someone claimed openly he was botting, whether it's bullshit or no, that's just show how much people fear the banhammer.
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    Indra Spharai
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    Can confirm bot hordes. Funny when they follow you to no where, or follow you to the other teams lol
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    Santana Clawz
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    Just trying to understand the nerf logic on xp...
    losses = less xp, a horde of botters alrdy puts you at a disadvantage meaning you're more likely to lose the match
    so if you get botters you in turn get punished for them being asshats?
    Hows this punish them more than the active pvp playerbase?
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  7. #47
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    Raelynn Lovelace
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinsain View Post
    Just trying to understand the nerf logic on xp...
    losses = less xp, a horde of botters alrdy puts you at a disadvantage meaning you're more likely to lose the match
    so if you get botters you in turn get punished for them being asshats?
    Hows this punish them more than the active pvp playerbase?
    It doesn't Punish botters. They don't care if the exp is less, they just need to be getting some form of exp since that is exp they gain while not actually playing the game.
    SE can nerf and nerf the exp but botters will still bot as long as there is exp.
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  8. #48
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    Kasu Kabe
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    The more I read about it, the more I think they should completely remove xp, at least for loosing team. During garo event, when someone complained he had to win to get the mount, be sure that most of the time someone else told him that it was doable and to keep trying. When it comes to XP, you're just an elitist if you say that.

    But I'll keep saying we need something that count actual participation in a battle, but knowing SE, they'll probably put it so low that even bots will be able to get exp. As long as SE treat PvP as a stepping stone for PvE, nothing will change: bots will ruin PvP and people will just leave once their character is leveled.
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  9. #49
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    If people walk away with nothing for losing then many of them just won't bother queuing up. Which makes the queue times for those of us who enjoy Frontlines lose out by having to wait around for longer in between matches. What we need is better tools to report problematic players and a swifter response time and official acknowledgement of the game's legitimate issues. This plague of botters may very well be limited to the North American and European servers which means that if it isn't a problem over on the Japanese servers then it is likely not being communicated to the developers.

    Much like how there has still not been a proper response to European players being screwed over by the promotion surrounding the maid/butler attire items. I'd like to think differently but this is a major issue and there's no official acknowledgement within this thread so it could be that nobody with the ability to give feedback to the Japanese development team is going to ever see this thread. The language barrier is, unfortunately, a major obstacle.
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    Kerwin Nindon
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    They should have made it based on individual performance. Not only am I sick of AFKers, but I'm also sick of people who run around in circles at the base the entire game CLAIMING they are defending the base.

    Last night I had a PLD tell me that because he was a PLD that was all he was good for.
    PLS is so garbage that he really isn't to far off.
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