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    Quote Originally Posted by MeoTwister5 View Post
    While using Patient Touch early negates the potential loss of stacks, what do you do to compensate if you possibly fail both PTs?
    In general I simply HQ two materials for the final craft (roughly 3.5k quality). So I use this macro enough times for intermediary materials to be partially HQ and then use this macro for the finisher. If I fail both the macro can absorb a 3.5k Quality loss. The question would be, well why don't you just work with a macro which hits closer and requires X quality... which is something I'm looking into. The reason I didn't prefer that off the start is because I like to be able to lazy through all NQ materials. and HQ intermediary materials... which this macro is capable of doing with NQ food.

    Basically its my set of worst practices of someone who has been crafting... way way too long. None the less it works really effectively
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlyna View Post
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    I've tested these macros and they work nicely, Katty.

    So basically, we can't reach 100% HQ using pure NQ mats while using all 100% secure steps. But we can gamble a bit with crafted mats. So we start off with pure NQ raw mats, use a little RNG to get slightly more power in the rotation. If it works, it works. If not, no big deal. We'll end up with the majority being HQ crafted mats and a small amt of NQ crafted mats. Then for the final product, we go for a slightly less powerful rotation (like the one cgbspender have up there too), but uses all 100% secure steps, utilizing our HQ crafted mats. Correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    So basically, we can't reach 100% HQ using pure NQ mats while using all 100% secure steps. But we can gamble a bit with crafted mats. So we start off with pure NQ raw mats, use a little RNG to get slightly more power in the rotation. If it works, it works. If not, no big deal.
    Huggles Caimie. Your observation is pretty much accurate. Specialist can pull of 100% HQ, with all NQ and 100 secure steps with a beautiful macro, while non-specialist have to prep ALOT. Details for both situations are below:
    1) If you are a specialist there is enough extra CP to use Ingenuity II on Byregot's and 4 quality steps to blast up to 16000 control while still only using NQ Tempura.
    Tesla and Tayolor/Whale showed this in http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4317413
    Which is a really great macro with poor protection.
    2) If you use Max CP, HQ Tempura and Cunning Craftsman's Tea you can squeeze out enough quality to hit the 15000 requirement with all NQ materials.
    Ermad showed this in http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4314991
    Its a great macro as well, the downside is there is no poor protection on Byregot's, which means you either suffer a small amount of RNG (probably ~1 to 2% NQ rate) or you have to split it into four macros.
    So for specialist classes you are probably best off finishing your level 70 quest and using Tesla/Tayolor's macro. For non specialist classes its a wash. You can choose to spend some extra money and time on making HQ food and HQ tea's, and using a four part macro. Or you can use NQ Food and as you said Caimie just HQ a few things for a 100% synth. And that's exactly what I'm doing right now, just using the NQ food macro with ~2k starting quality. Its too cheep and easy for me to bother with much else.
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    Last edited by Katlyna; 07-22-2017 at 12:53 AM.
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