Please add the Savage exclusive phase of O4S to O4N

[SpookyGhost]

Story mode/Normal mode was added specifically so players could experience the story. The Savage exclusive phase of O4 isn't important to the story and therefore doesn't need to be added to O4N. If you wish to experience the exclusive phase, either do Savage now or in a future patch/expansion - it'll always be there and you'll be able to experience it at some point. If they did put the phase in O4N then I can assure you it would be extremely watered down and the only thing you'd get out of it is seeing the new model in the game (it'll be on YT in no time anyway so I don't see why that matters).

[blackbluesky]

The Savage exclusive phase of O4 isn't important to the story

No, but it is a huge fanservice fight and that shouldn't be raid-gated

[SpookyGhost]

No, but it is a huge fanservice fight and that shouldn't be raid-gated

You realize that 99% of FFXIV is fanservice right? I'm not trying to really go into it in a thread like this but there's very little original ideas in XIV. Literally there's a 24man coming up entirely based around the world of Ivalice. I don't think "it's fanservice" is a justification in this particular MMO.

[blackbluesky]

You realize that 99% of FFXIV is fanservice right? I'm not trying to really go into it in a thread like this but there's very little original ideas in XIV. Literally there's a 24man coming up entirely based around the world of Ivalice. I don't think "it's fanservice" is a justification in this particular MMO.

Yes, and until now none of it has been savage/extreme exclusive. This is a trend I hope there is some resistance too before they pull this on Kefka, or Zeromus, or Sephiroth.

[Jybril]

No, but it is a huge fanservice fight and that shouldn't be raid-gated

I'm sorry but I have to agree and echo with others have said.
If you wish to fight the final boss of O4S, then you should attempt to try it with PF/RF.
(I don't think you can PF Savage at this time though.)
Savage is literally accessible to everyone in the game, if you have the time and patience.
Make a date to see when you can try it if you really wanna play it. ^^

P.S. The new Savage is actually easier than you think, so it may not be THAT hard to run it and see how you feel on it.
Even so, give it a whirl so you can at least try the boss for a while even if you can't clear it. You can still have fun.

[blackbluesky]

I'm sorry but I have to agree and echo with others have said.
If you wish to fight the final boss of O4S, then you should attempt to try it with PF/RF.
(I don't think you can PF Savage at this time though.)
Savage is literally accessible to everyone in the game, if you have the time and patience.
Make a date to see when you can try it if you really wanna play it. ^^

P.S. The new Savage is actually easier than you think, so it may not be THAT hard to run it and see how you feel on it.
Even so, give it a whirl so you can at least try the boss for a while even if you can't clear it. You can still have fun.

I don't really care what the average raider thinks of the difficulty after using the best in the world as a barometer. I just want SE to change it. I want casual access to fanservice fights and I am sure I'm not alone on this.

[Lambdafish]

I am sure I'm not alone on this.

The likes on your original post, and the mentality of the thread beg to differ sorry to say.

If you truly want casual access to this content, wait 7 months. By that time the fight will be accessible in the DF without needing to clear the other turns, and people will be massively overgeared enough that you can see the phase.

[Enla]

The likes on your original post, and the mentality of the thread beg to differ sorry to say.

If you truly want casual access to this content, wait 7 months. By that time the fight will be accessible in the DF without needing to clear the other turns, and people will be massively overgeared enough that you can see the phase.

This. A4S was accessible to everyone eventually even before level sync was a thing. Eventually this will happen with O4S.

[blackbluesky]

The likes on your original post, and the mentality of the thread beg to differ sorry to say.

If you truly want casual access to this content, wait 7 months. By that time the fight will be accessible in the DF without needing to clear the other turns, and people will be massively overgeared enough that you can see the phase.

That isn't good enough. I want to go in there now with my other friends who are also, for whatever reason, not able to raid. I don't want this trend set so that six months from now Zemus --> Zeromus or Sephiroth --> Safer Sephiroth or Esper Tower --> Angel Kefka isn't a thing.

[Enla]

That isn't good enough. I want to go in there now with my other friends who are also, for whatever reason, not able to raid. I don't want this trend set so that six months from now Zemus --> Zeromus or Sephiroth --> Safer Sephiroth or Esper Tower --> Angel Kefka isn't a thing.

You can not like it all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that they're not going to accommodate this. Like Hyperia said they need incentives to get people to push progression and this is one of the ways they do that. Not liking it personally doesn't mean much in the end.