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    Quote Originally Posted by Clethoria View Post
    Listen passive aggressive-chan I have the right to say how I feel even if it's page 100. There's never a 100% on anything nor will there ever will be. I think it's fine and I'm sure someone in the page 60's said so too.
    And they were just as wrong as you are. Passive aggressive? Nah, I'm telling you to your face, you're wrong and you don't know what you're talking about.

    This thread was started BEFORE THE CHANGE, which pointed out the exact problems it indeed caused. "Please give us your suggestions and feedback!" And when we did it got ignored for half the length it currently is. And when answered, it was even further ignored. So we watched pretty much everything we said might happen that could be a problem come true. What we have now is an absolute mess where even people who don't know what it was like question the lack of being able to chat. Sure, a few people have tried to come along and say "oh it's better this way, oh I like it like this", but they're just as wrong as you are, and your "right to say" doesn't fix that one bit.

    Seriously, go back and read what you're posting in. You claim you win a lot simply by winging it. . . Imagine actually being able to coordinate with your team. Don't look at the potential bad for a moment, but look at what's actually good about it and ask yourself if "just winging it" is more effective than actual coordination and strategy. Go say that to a raider and get laughed at. Go say that to anyone playing a competitive game and get laughed at. Maybe I'm coming off a bit mean - and at that, too bloody bad. Don't try to act cute - but this was a heated issue long before you chimed in. I won't mince words one bit on this: if you think not having proper communication in what's supposed to be a competitive gameplay mode is a good thing, you are, quite simply, wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    Imagine actually being able to coordinate with your team.
    Those that want to coordinate and can behave are outnumbered by those that just say "Kill healer" and/or "Kill ranged" at the beginning, stays quiet for the majority of the match and then loses their shit when the healer doesn't happen to be as good as the opposing healer.

    I rather have chat disabled than having to blacklist 1 or 2 people after every match. Not really inviting to have the chat log full of insults.
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    Last edited by OskarXCI; 08-10-2017 at 10:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OskarXCI View Post
    Those that want to coordinate and can behave are outnumbered by those that just say "Kill healer" and/or "Kill ranged" at the beginning, stays quiet for the majority of the match and then loses their shit when the healer doesn't happen to be as good the the opposing healer.

    I rather have chat disabled than having to blacklist 1 or 2 people after every match. Not really inviting to have the chat log full of insults.
    So, having to possibly blacklist 1 or 2 people who go too far or say too much holds more weight than an entire community and game mode having the ability to communicate and strategize in a competitive environment?

    We're all adults here. Do we really need to be told to behave ourselves and mind our manners? Worse still, do we all need to pay for those that don't do so?

    The chat ban is, and always has been a terrible idea that has done more harm than good to the Feast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    So, having to possibly blacklist 1 or 2 people who go too far or say too much holds more weight
    1 person on average after every match? Yes it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    entire community and game mode having the ability to communicate and strategize in a competitive environment?
    And the majority of this community is toxic and hostile towards anyone that doesn't live up their expectations. You really think they disabled the chat without any reason? They have the data and I take their word over anything else.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    We're all adults here. Do we really need to be told to behave ourselves and mind our manners?
    Define "we". And yes, some need to be told to behave themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    Worse still, do we all need to pay for those that don't do so?
    Sadly, yes. As you said, it's a community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OskarXCI View Post
    And the majority of this community is toxic and hostile towards anyone that doesn't live up their expectations. You really think they disabled the chat without any reason? They have the data and I take their word over anything else.
    If anything I will give SE credit with holding the community as a whole responsible for their actions that lead to the restrictions placed on chat. Not many companies will do that now in the PC world. Even with the quick chat now, players still try to find ways to grieve one another with "Nice Job" spam and other ways to be an example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MixZ View Post
    If anything I will give SE credit with holding the community as a whole responsible for their actions that lead to the restrictions placed on chat. Not many companies will do that now in the PC world. Even with the quick chat now, players still try to find ways to grieve one another with "Nice Job" spam and other ways to be an example.
    The entire class got punished for the actions of 1 or 2 students? Because that's what happened. Why am I and a majority of the community being punished for the actions of a very small few? SE is quick and ruthless with harassment/toxicity reports in chat in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korihu View Post
    The entire class got punished for the actions of 1 or 2 students? Because that's what happened. Why am I and a majority of the community being punished for the actions of a very small few? SE is quick and ruthless with harassment/toxicity reports in chat in the first place.
    As Oskar said, they likely have the data to justify it and it is highly unlikely they will never share that data.
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