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  1. #21
    Player
    technole's Avatar
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 72
    Here is the truth. People who exclude jobs in XPF are just bad players in-general.

    I felt the same when I was AST back in Gordias, and yet I cleared everything on the job. So you're telling me since I had Thordan Ex farmed on this job I can't help you "clear" on it? Get out of here.

    Many of us remember a certain WHM-main on Primal last tier that always excluded DRK from his Savage "clear" parties. If you swapped to it you would get blacklisted. He wasn't impressed with that job apparently. Of course took him well beyond echo months to clear A12S. That's the kind of player you end up becoming because of such, being talked about not being good.
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    Last edited by technole; 07-16-2017 at 12:59 PM.

  2. #22
    Player RaizeGraymalkin's Avatar
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    Volta Fross
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 61
    People always say this and I've NEVER in game seen an example of it.
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  3. #23
    Player Yuyuka3's Avatar
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    Kyara Moonbane
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RaizeGraymalkin View Post
    People always say this and I've NEVER in game seen an example of it.
    Well, then.
    http://imgur.com/a/pH4IY
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    Last edited by Yuyuka3; 07-17-2017 at 03:12 AM.

  4. #24
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    IhzaMhaskova's Avatar
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    Ihza Mhaskova
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    Exodus
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    Fisher Lv 100
    This is an issue with the meta and people wanting to be carried by it.

    As a WHM main I dealt with this all of Heavensward and ultimately never finished the Alexander raid because of it.
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  5. #25
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by IhzaMhaskova View Post
    This is an issue with the meta and people wanting to be carried by it.

    As a WHM main I dealt with this all of Heavensward and ultimately never finished the Alexander raid because of it.
    Really? I don't recall ever seeing the problem on Exodus then. Hell, I don't see people wanting the meta right now, just that you're able to clear it. It could be the time of day I'm on though, I'm usually doing this stuff from 9PM EST to around 2AM EST. Meaning 6PM to 11PM PST.
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  6. #26
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    Reilyn's Avatar
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    Vael Keriun
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    Leviathan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    This isn't exactly surprising.

    Again, SCH really doesn't bring much of anything to the party that AST doesn't do better already.

    Sure, either can clear the content, but when you're given the choice to take either the SCH or the AST, is it really any surprise what the answer would be? Of course I would take the AST over the SCH if I HAD THE CHOICE. With PF, people do have the choice.

    It's the same thing, though reversed when it came to AST in gordias savage. Literally years of AST buffs followed.
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  7. #27
    Player Masekase_Hurricane's Avatar
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Louisoix
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Why do people complain if you don't like it make your own PF lol
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  8. #28
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    Exiled_Tonberry's Avatar
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 100
    As a WHM, I'm not stupid enough to lock out SCH. Chain Strategem is extremely strong, and your mitigation is enough.
    I do lock out the other WHM slot, because double WHM is a little stupid.
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  9. #29
    Player
    Reilyn's Avatar
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    Vael Keriun
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    Leviathan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    As a WHM, I'm not stupid enough to lock out SCH. Chain Strategem is extremely strong, and your mitigation is enough.
    I do lock out the other WHM slot, because double WHM is a little stupid.
    It's enough, but people prefer what's better if they can get it. It's not exactly stupid. That's your subjective opinion.

    I do think it's in poor taste to exclude classes, but it's a very clear indicator that there's a blatant balance problem with predictable results, and I understand why class exclusion happens after playing mmos for 10 years.
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  10. #30
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    Hood Rat
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    Brynhildr
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    The top 5 speed runs for susano ex and the top 4 speed runs for lakshmi all use sch and ast...sch can't be that bad.
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