SE, what is the vision and identity of Scholars?

[paoweeotter]

"we give you a trait that incentivizes bowing your stacks to benefit shorter cooldown aetherflow and build up your fairy gauge but that's exactly what SCH don't want to do because you want to save your stack for Indom or Illustrate as your emergency OGCD. SCH is then left with pyshick. adlo is too expensive to use liberally and compared to physick it's a terrible HP per MP ratio spell. the same can be said for Succor which is more expensive AND weaker than ASTs version. in the end SCH jist have... pyshick. thays it.

and don t even mention NOCT instant adlo. I find NOCT AST to be more fun and stronger than SCH. they're a very mobile shielder with potent Heals and more impactful utility.

[Deox]

SCH don t want to blow all their aether stacks as you mentioned but at Level 70 the class plays in the opposite direction due to counter intuitive traits. it's the same negative interaction dissipation has with the fairy and fey union.

I just Adlo->excog->fey union on tank busters and go back to dpsing, I turn it back off once the tank is hovering around 90% life, it's not something I rush to build up stacks for and I treat it as another tool to help recover from busters

[paoweeotter]

yeah in that case if you take your time to blow up your stacks you'll have like what 30 gauge on your fairy bar 5 minutes into the fight? hardly useful.

the trait incentivizes aether stack use to lower cooldown of aetherflow which helps building up the fairy. but like you said you rather save your stacks . there needs to be a better way of building the gauge because we WANT to save AF for when we actually need it.

not complaining.. I've been doing fine in delta Pugs. surprisingly coming ahead of my WHM co healer in encHPS with low overheal. tho he does do 100 more DPS if he can turret. the fairy gauge buildup is just hmm how do you say it.. clunky.

to build stacks you want to blow up aetherflow. but that's exactly what you do not want to do because you save it for the right time. it's just a minor gripe and only affects me early on in the fight when you start from 0.

if only aether stacks builds 20 fairy gauge instead of 10...

[Deox]

I don't rush it in the sense that I view the ability as a bonus not my goal. I've fired off up to 12 energy drains/ aether heals *only 9 of which count towards it* 2 1/2 minutes into a fight

By that point the bar might as well be infinite for the moments you do use it don't outlast the heal rate of it

[Littlegreen]

Thinking about it, it's weird that our faeries don't use the faerie guage. Imagine if each faerie action received a significant buff but each one cost 20 from the guage. This way we only truly gain 10 guage every minute but spend it on something other than Fey Union (and also make Fey Union somewhat sacrificial since you can use fewer actions but still has that niche use for larger pulls/constant damage)

Spitballing here, but some ideas:

Whispering Dawn- 150 or 200 potency regen

Fey Covenant- physical defense as well as magic defense

Fey Illumination- 35% increased healing on target

Silent Dawn- a stun as well as a silence (or 10% increased damage taken for 15sec instead of stun?)

Fey Caress- honestly already pretty strong, if unused. Dunno what could be added/changed

Fey Wind- 10% increased skill/spellspeed or keep the 3% but add 10% damage buff. This works as a weaker (but still strong) Balance that's more reliable. Make them not stack if you must, but communication can lead to long stretches of uptime for increased damage.

Eos would be that much stronger in dungeons and Selene would make raids smoother, but would require SCH know the fight front and back like they always have had to. This would also take masterful control of your guage to use optimally and not leave you without that Fey Wind to finish off the boss before enrage.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

and don t even mention NOCT instant adlo. I find NOCT AST to be more fun and stronger than SCH. they're a very mobile shielder with potent Heals and more impactful utility.

You know, I think it's time Aspected Benefic saw a change. The reason for it's instant cast was to make up for it's weaker healing at launch.
It was supposed to be a faster and more mobile healer to offset it being weaker than WHM and SCH.

That identity is gone now, they're as strong, if not stronger, than both healers. AST has no business with Aspected Benefic being instant cast anymore, especially considering it outplays both Regen and Adloquium. What'd I'd like to see is Lightspeed be used for this. If you want instant cast Aspected spells, pop Lightspeed, otherwise you have a cast time like every other healer.

[Kabzy]

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I do like the idea of Faerie abilities having more of an impact on SCHs weaker toolkit. Maybe change an ability, or add one, that allows the Faerie to use a stronger version of their own CDs so you can still use the weaker versions without burning through the Faerie gauge. Anything that promotes more interactivity with the pet is something I'm all for, after all we are the healers with a pet!!

However that Silent Dawn change, really? xD That along with CS would literally delete WHM from the game. Though Selene does need some nice buffs!

[KDSilver]

You know, I think it's time Aspected Benefic saw a change. The reason for it's instant cast was to make up for it's weaker healing at launch.
It was supposed to be a faster and more mobile healer to offset it being weaker than WHM and SCH.

That identity is gone now, they're as strong, if not stronger, than both healers. AST has no business with Aspected Benefic being instant cast anymore, especially considering it outplays both Regen and Adloquium. What'd I'd like to see is Lightspeed be used for this. If you want instant cast Aspected spells, pop Lightspeed, otherwise you have a cast time like every other healer.

I'd prefer Adlo becoming insta-cast than seeing Aspected benefic loosing it.
Ast only have essential dignity every 40s and lightspeed every 150s for instacast (+swifcast like every healer). That's not a lot to react in situation when you have to move. So AB should keep that.

[Kabzy]

I'd prefer Adlo becoming insta-cast than seeing Aspected benefic loosing it.

That's just dumbing things down even further though. I know AST has access to it, and it's a better shield, but hopefully they'll balance it so that Adlo goes back to being the strongest, and at that point being instant cast would be overkill. There needs to still be at least some reward for planning and good play. Nocturnal A.Benefic is just stupid as it is now.

[KDSilver]

I'm not saying I definitly want that on adlo.
But Exiled said s/he wants AB to have to insta-cast removed, so I said that I'd prefer adlo to have the same effect than removing the insta cast on AB.

And, Supersun got my point.