Objectively, The Royal Managerie Will Be Nerfed

[Viz79]

No shade mate you're saying what everyone is thinking. I'm not expecting everyone to be a brilliant player but not willing to learn anything remotely challenging? Pathetic.

[Donaria]

It's been how long learn your class stop asking to make our game easier when you can't be bothered to put in the effort yourself
Get your dungeons drops, buy vendor food, use your materia hand outs and spend some time learning the dam fight.
It's the same instant gratification BS all over again from AAR, SE literally hands you guys everything and puts it in your nice new expanded inventory, holds your hands all the way through and you all can't be bothered to learn the dam fight.
I know I'm gonna get a bunch of shade thrown at me and negative reactions but it needs to be said...LBR nailed it 110% if you support this fight getting nerfed Your all a bunch of pussies!

[DrakeSilvos]

I should hope not, pushing people to actually think is never a bad thing.

[AlexionSkylark]

So, wat you're saying is that people would rather unsub than try to push through the fight?

That's preposterous and ridiculous. I've yet to meet or read anywhere about a single person who did or say they'd do anything like it. Casual or otherwise.

[Sandpark]

So, wat you're saying is that people would rather unsub than try to push through the fight?

That's preposterous and ridiculous. I've yet to meet or read anywhere about a single person who did or say they'd do anything like it. Casual or otherwise.

Never heard of it happening here. But in XI a guy I knew quit for 6 months because he could not beat Maat on red mage, tried like 20 times. I knew him on xbox live and told him to level samurai for easier fight. He returned, switched to Samurai, and won second try.

Of course on there the risk was greater. If you failed you had to go farm a testimony in the depths of an open world dungeon for another shot at it.

Here you can die, you don't even lose experience points, and can try over and over assuming no one else quits or time don't run out. I don't get the rage here sometimes. You don't lose anything but time, it's not like the old school mmos, where you had to grind levels or items to get another shot at something.

[Dizzy_Derp]

Bunch of damn babies. This is se telling you that you can't completely suck shit at lvl 70. It's unnaceptable. The skill floor of the community HAS to be raised. If you are having trouble with this as easy as it is you don't deserve to get to endgame and become a burdcon on the poor souls that may be stuck playing with you. Get better or stay locked out those are your options. Although you you could clear this with 3 ppl dead on the floor the entire time so I'm sure at some point you will get carried through.

[Auteur]

Bunch of damn babies.

From FF14 Reddit:

People who cleared TRM demanding that it be removed from Trial Roulette: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._removed_from/

Talk about dodging TRM in Roulette: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/6lndbf/discussion_its_time_we_stop_complaining_about_msq/

Hakul 41 points 6 days ago
It's worse, I bet most of these people campaigning against nerf are the same people who remove accessories to lower their ilvl so they don't get it.
People did the same crap with step of faith, a loud group crying that it shouldn't be nerfed, meanwhile every time they got it in trial roulette they would abandon it or would try to circumvent it with lowered ilvl.

DRKmidgetsnowman 31 points 6 days ago*
You want to prevent nerfs?
then don't friggin abandon the second you dont get ifrit normal as your trial roulette
soo many abandons on high end roulettes

HyperionMonsieurSM 9 points 14 days ago
Queue it with a sub lv 70 friend. You're welcome.

LoftySailor 27 points 7 days ago
If you don't want to get it in trials, just unequip stuff to tank your item level, then put them back on after you queue.

DRKCaptain_Lonk 6 points 7 days ago
Never thought of this, thanks!

[Khovel] [Ryuho] on [Diabolos]khovel 19 points 7 days ago
and now you are tanking sastasha normal.

ngelrugal 1 point 7 days ago
have never heard a complain except "lower your ilvl if you want to avoid shinryu", and even i took it as a ways to avoid the most difficult trial, not a whine

Wonder how much of these tough guys "lower your ilvl [] to avoid shinryu."

[Lilseph]

So, wat you're saying is that people would rather unsub than try to push through the fight?

That's preposterous and ridiculous. I've yet to meet or read anywhere about a single person who did or say they'd do anything like it. Casual or otherwise.

Based on what I read here, compared to what I see in-game, I'm almost sure it's an exaggeration to strenght their argument. Like the people claiming there are polls that show how players are getting blocked to complete the MSQ because of this trial. Worse than Raubahn EX. Made up arguments.

[DaikiKiyoshi]

I read that Reddit link and it's pretty much everyone saying it's not that hard and stuff just like here. Maybe I didn't scroll far enough but I didn't see anyone except maybe the OP demanding it be removed from the trial roulette. Everyone else was pretty much calling him a selfish idiot for demanding such.


Shinryu is pathetically easy if people just do mechanics. The dps check is practically non existent. All you have to do is dodge. If people can't even do that they don't deserve to play any of the content unlocked by clearing this trial.

[Chiramu]

Once more people become better geared as time goes on, the fight will become more trivial. Even if only a handful of people know the fight well enough to not die repeatedly, people can be carried.

The dungeons and trials nowadays have become harder hitting in general. I personally like the change, it's refreshing after all the massive tank pulls in Heavensward.

You might be right OP, you might be wrong. They didn't change Leviathan EX or Titan EX from falling off the edges. I don't see why they would change the Royal Menagerie.