Bards cant hear their own songs or voice?

[Enyalios]

The job of the bard is not to support the party, it's to contribute as a DPS like every other role. We queue as a DPS, having our crit buff and DH makes sense. It's like a dragoon not getting litany

[HyoMinPark]

The job of the bard is not to support the party, it's to contribute as a DPS like every other role

Bard is and has always been a support-type DPS job in FFXIV. Yes, we contribute to DPS, but our main role, especially in a static-like environment, has always been to support our party members. Before it was Mage's/Army's for MP/TP refresh, Foe's to up caster DPS, Battle Voice to augment song's effects, Warden's Paeon for WAR's Pacification. Now our songs buff party members, Troubadour gives added support/defensive effects to them (and us, as of 4.01), Nature's Minne is a 20%/15 second healing buff for a tank. Refresh and Tactician replace Mage's/Army's and Palisade is a defensive buff for tanks. Bard is a support-based DPS role, and always has been in FFXIV.

If we benefited from the 2% crit buff (and, by that, BV when used), SE would take away from us elsewhere for the sake of balance. I'd rather not take a 10% damage reduction in exchange for a 2% buff to my crit rate. Bad BRDs before were already terrible about NOT singing because of the damage reduction. If they added that back in as a way to balance out us benefiting from our own crit/direct hit buffs, you would be sure to see people go back to being Silent Bards.

[Mikhaill]

The job of the bard is not to support the party, it's to contribute as a DPS like every other role. We queue as a DPS, having our crit buff and DH makes sense. It's like a dragoon not getting litany

...Wat. Have you not seen all their new set? It screams support lmao.
They are a support DPS even moreso thanks to the amazing rework of Bard in SB.
Giving us ALL this will make Bard OP and MCH would be placed even lower in love scale.
I don't understand your Dragoon and Bard thing, Dragoon doesn't give all these utilities like bard.
We need to be talking about MCH and it's garbo DPS. Let's not get greedy with how Bard works right now, it's near perfect.
Lest you want us to be penalized again about singing and killing our DPS. :^)

[Shurrikhan]

The job of the bard is not to support the party, it's to contribute as a DPS like every other role. We queue as a DPS, having our crit buff and DH makes sense. It's like a dragoon not getting litany.

Note that other jobs similarly do not benefit from their own effects. Divine Veil, Brotherhood, and the old Battle Voice are all raid buffs that do not benefit the caster. Similarly, there are many buffs that cannot be self-cast, only allied-cast. It's not like this is without precedent.

Apparently SE decided that they wanted Battle Litany to be usable in solo play and to be balanced between personal and raid consideration (e.g. one might pop it earlier or later to maximize raid damage than they otherwise would to maximize personal damage). They decided Battle Voice need not be. Simple as that. Your throughput is unaffected either way; unless SE directly intends to buff Bard, what they'd give by making that CD and those effects part of your personal rotation or multipliers as well, they would take from other potencies.

[Warlyx]

Note that other jobs similarly do not benefit from their own effects. Divine Veil, Brotherhood, and the old Battle Voice are all raid buffs that do not benefit the caster. Similarly, there are many buffs that cannot be self-cast, only allied-cast. It's not like this is without precedent.

brotherhood helps the monk too

divine veil yeah but makes sense , paladin are all about protecting the weak and whatnot ....

battle voice needs to buff the bard too period , isnt gamebreaking at all and like the OP said , the bard sing the song to inspire every party memeber him/herself included :/

[Berethos]

battle voice needs to buff the bard too period , isnt gamebreaking at all and like the OP said , the bard sing the song to inspire every party memeber him/herself included :/

It's not about being game breaking or not, it's about the particular balance the developers want.

By asking for us to benefit from BV, what you're basically asking for is for us to be able to do more damage. If we are underperforming based on the target range the developers want us in, then such a change could be something they might do.

From most discussions I've seen, however, Bard isn't underperforming based on the damage and offensive utility they bring to the group (which ideally is balanced, or you end up with a job that always get sidelined)...which means asking for us to be affected by BV is in effect asking us to trade damage/benefits from somewhere else to get that benefit instead...

Which basically results in Bard not gaining or losing anything overall.

[savageink]

Bards do benefit from their own songs. They just get different benefits from party members.

[Shurrikhan]

Brotherhood helps the monk too.

Not directly. It only helps it through the portion of the effects specifically meant to benefit from allies. The damage buff does not apply to the Monk him/herself.

battle voice needs to buff the bard too period , isnt gamebreaking at all and like the OP said , the bard sing the song to inspire every party memeber him/herself included :/

Not gamebreaking is hardly a reason for balance changes. Battle Voice has never affected the Bard. That could change and no one would care per se, but balance shifts on collections of minutia. Moreover, it would probably already be part of the Bard's personal DPS balance if SE felt Bard was better off for it. They haven't. So one ability becomes worthless in solo play (i.e. you already receive its throughput without having to use it). That doesn't make it any less useful elsewhere. If and when Bard comes to feel undertuned, this may well be a slight adjustment they go with, as most would prefer to see all their skills useful regardless of party participation or size. But it's no requirement. There's no paradox, no insanity, in simply leaving Battle Voice raid only. It's been that way since ARR's release, after all.