Bards cant hear their own songs or voice?

[Risu0042]

Disregarding balance, I'd argue that as a bard, you're there to inspire your comrades not so much yourself. This is why I don't have a problem with bard songs not affecting the bard. Battle voice however perhaps should.

i agree, you hear your own song of course. but they are your words and your tunes. you are there to demoralize your enemies and inspire your allies. a bard that inspires themselves would just sound arrogant

*bard looks in mirror* "your the greatest, ya that's right. no one else compares. what you hear a machines complaining again? they are just mad that they can't be as cool as you." *winks with cocky smile*

[Berethos]

Wait... what? How would having the direct hit buff stop you from having song uptime?

That's not what they meant - the part about song uptime was that benefitting from your own buffs from songs means that to maximize DPS you could never let a song drop, which is mostly how it is now but would be an even more important requirement.

The rest is pointing out that if we benefit from the 2% crit buff and the DH buff from BV, then we'd likely be balanced around that and have other things nerfed (likely potency of skills so individually they don't hit as hard) to compensate.

Basically gaining the 2% crit buff and the DH buff from BV wouldn't put as ahead of where we are now.

[Mirakumi]

I would rather that being with another Bard that our abilities stack... Even if we don't benefit, shouldnt the group benefit from 2?

[Arutan]

As the title suggests, when are we gonna be able to get our own buffs? Am I to believe all bards are deaf and cant hear their own songs? Or their own Battle Voice?

I do hope SE notices how totally backwards and stupid this is.....

Personnally I find it weird to be hyped by our own song. When a bard sing it's usually to hype the others, not himself.

[TankHunter678]

Bards are tone deaf, they inspire their allies to kill the enemy faster to get them to stop singing.

[Crimson_Hunter]

To be fair if we're being realistic, then bards should not be able to really attack or do anything else if it requires an instrument, unless you think you can play a flute/ harp while running around and (accurately) fire arrows.

While we're being realistic, Bard attacks should have a relatively high miss rate and lower damage the further you are from your target, especially so if you're moving and attacking, also have a limited amount of shots, need to craft or buy arrows and can only carry a limited amount.

[Berethos]

To be fair if we're being realistic

Could go the other "realistic" route and that the initial instrument use is to establish the pitch/get the notes right, and the rest is the Bard singing a capella as they fire arrows (which, incidentally, matches with the established lore, that Bards were born out of archers who began to sing to bolster the comrades and deal with the death of those around them in battle as they had to keep their eyes on the field no matter what and so could basically see the horror of battle more clearly).

[HyoMinPark]

As the title suggests, when are we gonna be able to get our own buffs? Am I to believe all bards are deaf and cant hear their own songs? Or their own Battle Voice?

I do hope SE notices how totally backwards and stupid this is.....

We probably won't ever benefit from our own 2% crit buffs or BV. And here's why I think that is: they took away the damage penalty from our songs when they revamped them, and I believe that was the trade-off----no more 10% decreased damage for sacrificing a 2% crit buff. And, of course, BV won't hit us because BV can only affect those who are under the effect of our songs.

Personally, I would much rather sacrifice these buffs instead of incurring a 10% decreased damage penalty again every time I sang. The job of a BRD is to support the party, and I think it makes sense that our songs only affect party members. Even without our own buffs, BRD is still doing extremely well in terms of personal DPS. I would much rather we stay as is, than benefit from a measly 2% and take nerfs elsewhere.

[FallenArisen0990]

Sounds like you want an XI feature. Do missing singing in XI.

[Enyalios]

The job of the bard is not to support the party, it's to contribute as a DPS like every other role. We queue as a DPS, having our crit buff and DH makes sense. It's like a dragoon not getting litany