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  1. #11
    Player
    Supersun's Avatar
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    Felix Feliday
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    At least, if you pre-cast regen, you better cling to the tank like glue so he can quickly rip the adds off.

    It's fine if the healer takes a hit or 2. It's not fine if the healer takes a hit or 2 while running around like he's on fire.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lorglath View Post
    I ran into a whm that precasted medica ii and regen before a boss. I clicked mine off and waited for the others to wear off so he cast it again. At that point I just said I'm not pulling with regens up and sat down. He kept putting it back up for a while and he and his buddy gave me grief about it until he finally stopped. Went up to the next boss while he was just spamming cure i and cure ii on me at full health and we get to the next boss....where he does the medica ii and regen again. So I sit down and wait it out again, right as it wears off I run to pull and get kicked from the group.
    Casting regen before a boss is hardly a problem. The reason you generally don't cast regen before a pull is because the rest of the pack besides the one the tank pulled will b-line towards the healer (or beeline if you are in St. Mocianne). On the boss, unless there's more than 1 target which is pretty rare, There's very little reason NOT to cast regen before the pull. I mean what? Is the tank so badly geared that his ranged enmity attack isn't going to generate more than a tick of regen?
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  2. #12
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    Lorglath's Avatar
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    Lorglath Gilmore
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Medica II and Regen? Just annoying more than causing an actual problem.
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  3. #13
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    Seraphyna's Avatar
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    Character
    Sianne Rose
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 31
    Quote Originally Posted by Jas710 View Post
    DO NOT CAST Regen on your tank as s/he is about to pull. Unless of course, you are in the mood to solo tank.

    If you are lucky, your tank may know to use /statusoff, but don't count on it.

    That is all. Bye.
    If you can't hold hate through regen, you're a bad tank. Period.

    You have abilities to grab aggro on multiple mobs on the move, use them. Not doing this? Bad tank.

    Using only sight to aggro? Bad tank.

    If you can't hold hate through this, how the hell are you going to hold hate with mass mobs with M2 up and me dpsing? You're not. I turn into the tank most times than not when I don't have my SO running on his through just dpsing. Seems to me A LOT of tanks need to learn to hold aggro and their AOE aggro skills.
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  4. #14
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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Character
    Shiru Elysia
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    I always precast a regen on my tank before the pull (on raids/Ex primals/dungeon boss).
    And... this isn't a problem.

    Cause my tank's aggro is solid, I then know my tank has a 18s regen on him and it open a dps window to me, allowing me to precast my dots.
    Of course, you avoid to use regen before a pull of several mobs however but otherwise...

    Don't know what kind of tanks you had...
    Don't come to tell us how we should play healing job if you don't know how it works please.
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    Last edited by KDSilver; 07-12-2017 at 08:22 AM.

  5. #15
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    Johaandr's Avatar
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    Character
    Bell Jee
    World
    Phantom
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    I precast regen just so i dont need to CAST cure in my 12 sec stone IV spam opener w/ prescence of mind.
    Im refering to raids.
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  6. #16
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    Character
    Lyrai Celestine
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    In dungeons, I always wait for my tank to use at least 1 AoE hate (Flash, Overpower, Unleash) to the mobs before I use Regen. For example, the PLD uses a shield lob, I cast Aero II to that target, then when he uses Flash, I regen him before casting Aero III.

    The horror of Regen and Medica II, however, I'd say is on the add phase of Scathach in Dun Scaith. Those ranged mobs that just spawned would target me, like... 5 or 6 of them. I had to anticipate and heal myself through until they took the aggro off me.
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  7. #17
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    Crystal Skye
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    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    But but...what it I Regen pre pull so I can swiftcast/Holy and make sure I stun everything?!?!?

    To be fair, on super huge pulls I will legit put regen on the Tank mid pull then run with him to Swiftcast/Holy. The four second stun is more than enough for the tank to grab hate at which point he is now back to high health and all the mobs are on him.
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    Last edited by HyperSMB; 07-12-2017 at 01:13 PM.
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  8. #18
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    vigioX-Sun's Avatar
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    Vigiox Sun
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 90
    I don't mind regen on trash pull as long as healer stay really close to me
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  9. #19
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    pushin_tin's Avatar
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    Character
    Ac Ungarmax
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Precasting regen is only bad on trash pulls. If a tank cannot establish aggro on a single boss target with regen ticking, then the tank has serious issues. There's never a good reason to precast medica II, though.
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  10. #20
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    Character
    Ociela Koslun
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Really never understood why some people cant wait for Shield Lob/Tomahawk/Unmend before they start regens. Then how do people hit level cap and NOT have a decent grasp of how long an encounter will last so they can make sure their regens are down when the fight ends and moving on continues.
    Side problem to this, stop-n-go tanks, if you stop moving your done pulling, either finish the pull or tank. No reason to make a movement stop just to hit the mobs your pulling if your planning on grabbing the next group as well, also it makes the tank take more damage then necessary before I can start healing, or I start healing too early and an OCD heal/3-4 regen ticks later I start taking aggro.
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