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    Vespar's Avatar
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    Leyna Crosse
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    Summoner Lv 100

    Stop rewarding tanks/healers! We all put in the same effort.

    This applies mostly to tanks, but on occasion healers.
    Some of us generally dislike the way tank and healer roles play. I dont think its fair to constantly reward those roles with bonus items (ie: cracked clusters, mounts, gil,etc.)

    They already have various rewards at their disposal. They do not need MORE. If anything, DPS deserve MORE. We're the ones that have to sit through outrageously long queue times and we put in the exact same amount of time and effort (if not more) than any other role in the duty.

    In the interest of fairness, start making some rewards for DPS or stop doing this.

    (To the posters after me, flame away, I'll not be reading the remainder of this thread as it is personal feedback and my piece has been said.)
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    Mia Montblanc
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    This is incentive to help alleviate the long DPS queues though?
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    Richard Butte
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    *SE removes rewards for tanks and healers*

    And no queue ever popped ever again. The end.

    Seriously though, the adventurer in need bonus applies to whatever class there isn't enough of, and this has actually been DPS on rare occasion.

    Players will earn rewards for playing whatever is needed to keep the queue flowing. Simple as that.
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    Last edited by RichardButte; 07-10-2017 at 01:56 PM.

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    cgbspender's Avatar
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    Honinbo Dosaku
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
    *SE removes rewards for tanks and healers*

    And no queue ever popped ever again. The end.
    Do you think the 50K exp bonus rewarded to tanks/healers is enough of an incentive to sign us with these jobs, really ?

    When I sign as healer, it's defintely not for the rewards, but because I like my job. Want more healers and tanks? make people enjoy these jobs.
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    Last edited by cgbspender; 07-08-2017 at 10:18 AM.

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    Richard Butte
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgbspender View Post
    Want more healers and tanks? make people enjoy these jobs.
    With like cattle prods and whips and junk?
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    Ekhi Ysengrim
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
    With like cattle prods and whips and junk?
    That might just work. You saw the player bases reaction to Yotsuyu.
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    Drae Wellenbrecher
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by missybee View Post
    This is incentive to help alleviate the long DPS queues though?
    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
    *SE removes rewards for tanks and healers*

    And no queue ever popped ever again. The end.
    Honestly I see no difference between queue before and after cracked clusters.
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    Erin Grey
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    Mateus
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Arutan View Post
    Honestly I see no difference between queue before and after cracked clusters.
    I do. I'm finally getting 10-20 minute queues and getting to level samurai in a non mind-numbing way while my fellow tanks and healers get their sweet, sweet materia. Win win!

    It's probably only temporary though, once materia becomes as common as dirt queues will probably slide back to normal, but maybe by then things will have balanced out more or SE figured out a way to reward tanks and healers more.
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
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    Perhaps we could get some really cool mounts for queueing for each roulette a certain number of times as an Adventurer in Need? Say maybe a mount per roulette? And it'd need to be a high number though, say something like 50k, to make sure the queues stay rewarding for a long time? I'm just trying to brainstorm here.

    Though, I think the best thing SE could do is make tanking and healing more fun and engaging. I mean now that I have finally found a DPS I enjoy (RDM), I'll probably be using that more since I can enjoy myself. They completely gutted the tank/healer playstyle after all, and I think if SE made tanking/healing more demanding mechanically than DPS, then maybe we could get a community shift away from blaming the tank/healer for everything. But maybe that's just some pipe dream.
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    White Mage ~ Sage ~ Astrologian
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Drae Wellenbrecher
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    I do. I'm finally getting 10-20 minute queues and getting to level samurai in a non mind-numbing way while my fellow tanks and healers get their sweet, sweet materia. Win win!

    It's probably only temporary though, once materia becomes as common as dirt queues will probably slide back to normal, but maybe by then things will have balanced out more or SE figured out a way to reward tanks and healers more.
    Welp, that's still kinda disgusting how everything is offered to tank (and heal) just because they're a minority. With cracked cluster they can either gear themselve more easily or make tons of money. All of this because SE wasn't clever enough to prevent the obvious by adding new tank and heal instead of full DPS.
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