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  1. #281
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    Tsukino's Avatar
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    Tsukino Mahou
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    Adamantoise
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    As long as everyone is sharing useless anecdotes...I've only done the trial twice, once for my own story quest and once in trial roulette, and both times the parties I got from the duty finder cleared it without even a single wipe. Although I realize I've been lucky based on other information, if all I had was my own experience to go on I'd consider it one of the easiest trials we've had.

    What I mean is, even though it really sucks if you've had a terrible time, that doesn't mean everyone else has the same experience, or the majority, etc.
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  2. #282
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    Thayos's Avatar
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    Thayos Redblade
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Beat this on my first go-round with the duty finder. We only needed two shots.
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  3. #283
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    Kronus Magnus
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    Midgardsormr
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    Summoner Lv 70
    It's all opinion here including mine.

    I cleared the fight but I still think it should be nerfed if the metrics say most players attempting haven't cleared the fight by the next patch time.

    Otherwise the game is being designed around the hardcore or elite playerbase. Which would be cool if that did happen in a way. But most developers don't develop around the hardcore or elite anymore, the KISS format.
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    Adventure Journey Concept: http://goo.gl/b6SyTh

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  4. #284
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    Subucnimorning's Avatar
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    Blue Lightt
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    Behemoth
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    I really hope it doesn't get nerfed, it is literally the only fight in the MSQ that requires you to somewhat know what you are doing. After some groups I have had lately in Ala Mhigo we need trials like this to force people to adapt and play better, DPS pulling crazy low #'s making trash packs take forever and eating every aoe under the sun
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  5. #285
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    Yusa Emi
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    Exodus
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    The only thing i have to say is LUL!
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  6. #286
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    Atomfist's Avatar
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    Atomfist Zrettun
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 70

    Why nerf it?

    I loved the challenge the Royal Menagerie gives for the final battle of the story.

    Beating that fight gave me a great sense of accomplishment because I wiped many times but the group buckled down and we got through it.

    I agree that it can be harder then any other MSQ content out there but it does not deserve a nerf just because it is a little harder.
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  7. #287
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    LuluLalerue's Avatar
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    Lulu La'taru
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    Gilgamesh
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    It is not like they are throwing mechanics that are new. We have seen all these. The fire/water mech, ice from Shiva, stack mech, move away marker (the line mech that goes with that), bacon weave, anytime there is a huge ground aoe. I don't know, I would think after seeing these mechs over and over again people would get the idea. If not, those people need to make themselves vocal and/or Google the fight. SE does the handholding for us throughout the game to prep us for this fight. So imho, it doesn't need nerfed. People need to pay attention. Yoshi-P even said that this expansion was going to be much more mechanic heavy vs last expansion. I feel as though a lot of people still think they can muscle their way through mechanics or the mechanics are going to forgiving.

    TL; DR: SE has shown us all these mechanics already throughout the game. SE warned us this was a mechanic heavy expansion. People need to learn it's ok to ask for clarification/help, Google stuff, and pay attention.
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  8. #288
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    Kekekeke's Avatar
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    Ayara Naeuri
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 70
    I think it's just fine where it is, and I say that as a new player. I went in blind as a White Mage, and while it took a few tries and a lot of communication and coordination to successfully clear it, it felt more satisfying once I had successfully beaten it BECAUSE it was so challenging. The rest of the MSQ up to that point felt very easy by comparison, true, but I think that's because previous content was not challenging enough so the increase in difficulty felt sudden.

    One thing I would really like to see is new Guildhests which teach players essential raid skills like stacking-- not all players know what those arrows mean, and that seems correctable through additional instructional content.
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  9. #289
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    Eshura's Avatar
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    Kanika Khayyam
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by Clawbriar View Post
    On the other hand, I kinda feel if you're level 70, you should have a good enough grasp of what to do by now.
    It's not just player competence that's the issue here. SE made this guy more like a raid boss than an end-of-story boss. I think it would have helped if Verity vendors unlocked as soon as you get finished with Ala Mhigo. If they're gonna make him raid-style strength then they should let us gear up... or just nerf the bugger a little. It took me 5 tries in a single group on my first go through to defeat him (using 70 class gear), so it IS possible, but the difficulty is a mite too hard for pugging.
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  10. #290
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    technole's Avatar
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 72
    People complained about Nidhogg Story mode, not nerfed. (only echo upon party death)

    People complained about Ozma, not nerfed.

    This SB instance is just right. Enough where people can't be dragged to victory. Every mechanic practically comes from everything you seen in the story or earlier normal trials. Diamond Dust? Unless you were asleep during Shiva, I don't know how people mess it up. There is such thing as a Focus Target.

    Keep up the good work with story instances SE!
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