MCH vs BRD (And why MCH need serious help)

[Fannah]

The turret dies very rarely and even if so, you can instant cast it again.

They almost should make the pvp machinist for the pve, it's so more fun, quick, dynamic, powerful

[Clawbriar]

The turret is just a DoT that can be killed and could potentially be forgotten about if it is as it doesn't leave a debuff on the target. .

I actually don't think I've ever seen my turret die this expansion.

[RLofOBFL]

According to 4.01 they buffed BRD's damage up so it affects the BRD itself now instead of just allies....lol. Why? Now its single target damage will be even higher?

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I actually don't think I've ever seen my turret die this expansion.

I found out the hard way at the end of Temple of the Fist that a turret dying triggers Turret Reset :/

[Scarletelf]

According to 4.01 they buffed BRD's damage up so it affects the BRD itself now instead of just allies....lol. Why? Now its single target damage will be even higher?

It only affects "Troubadour" the 10% magic Res/Def/or HP up skill

[Scarletelf]

I understand in terms of Utility they want Bards to remain Kings/Queens since it's the core feature for Bards in FF. I think adding more utility to Machinist will just throw them back in as "alt Bard" like in HW. I think they need to tweak Machinist's potency's and adjust the punishments with over-heating. Bard is in a sweet spot right now even when pushing for lowest (second lowest) dps. Machinists I believe should have the potential to dps as high as a caster considering their difficult playstyle.

[Talec]

The seems like the only class where a base mechanic punishes the player so harshly for what could be a single mistake.

Ahahahahahahaha! Play SMN dude. Have fun!

[Elnidfse]

Ahahahahahahaha! Play SMN dude. Have fun!

Messing up an aetherflow stack is 2 to 3 minutes in the dumpster. Which I'll admit is absolutely terrible. You effectively get locked out of your best damage. But it is, to be quite honest, is not extremely hard to avoid. Ignoring that, while it is extremely punishing and SMN remains the job the most affected by dying, passively refreshing your dot (the equivalent of reapplying hot shot) would not suddenly tank your dps by almost 600p. Which it does for MCH. I would make a comparison to execution for post summon Bahamut and wildfire. But using Akh-morn twice is not exactly the epitome of intensity.

[AmandaLashaquoa]

LOL. They just buffed BRD when no one even asked for it.
"FUCK MACHINISTS." - SE Team

[Fannah]

LOL. They just buffed BRD when no one even asked for it.
"FUCK MACHINISTS." - SE Team

No one asked for it? Please, tell us more about it. I've read it plenty of times bards were disappointed their song doesn't apply to them. And it's only defensive buffs.
And about Battle Voice, it's just easier to use it, wherever is your ally.
I prefer to have everyone happy with their class, and it was something quick to do for bards. I mean it's ok to me if they buff BRD and Machinists, our time will come.

And btw, they fixed the "bug" with Flamethrower, so it won't interrupt anymore just cause our target moved an inch, so at least we have this buff.

But I agree anyway, Machninist needs way more for now and... yea, maybe SE doesn't care much about MCH after all. But just don't say no one asked for buffing this part of bards.