PvP Rewards Now Tied to Win/Loss: Will There Be Endemic Cheating?

[Elfidan]

I wish pvp rewards were better. Some mounts for agonizing away hours ,and hours of life is kinda lack luster. I much prefer the systems where pve gear doesn't do well in pvp , and gear collection/combinations matter. I honestly only attend frontline for xp and the pipe dream of some wins(see mount comment above). I hope this makes life better for the die-hard pvpers but i doubt it. good luck yall~

[Elfidan]

Hi, I'm 70k damage to PCs AST while healing my allies effectively. Why should I get the same exp as afkers that are on my team?

I still think that this doesn't correct the issue that there are afkers leeching exp still getting the same exp as someone who is actively trying to win and do things.

If there's still afkers, it makes all the people who are trying to win get less exp as a whole on the losing teams, even if they're busting their best play to get the W. (What if you lose by one point?)
And yet, the afkers on the winning team gets rewarded with more exp for doing nothing.

What if you're placed on a team where there's like 5 afkers on your team and you have no chance of winning? Do you just quit and go do something else even though you like playing PvP?

I can't say this solves the afk problem. I guess I should be glad I play on JP datacentre.

They should make a rating system similar fates have to balance rewards.

[Syrehn]

No, the flow of the underlying game is still at issue. Speed running instanced dungeons is ok the first time, but after 100 times no thank you. And since exp is on a curve, older content does not give ample exp unless you have the ... ONE A DAY WEEKLY!!!11uuu how a game based on the armory system has weekly lockouts still baffles me.

The game badly needs other ways to grind besides duty finder crap. What makes PvP so attractive is not that it is the best exp per hour, but that it is the least demanding exp per hour. Based on the design, both the old and the new, yes, the new too, it still beats out PotD as far as being able to kinda just cruise along on auto-pilot. So say, if i get 1 mil an hour in PvP on auto half brain dead mode vs 2 mil in speed run soul destroying forever duty finders, then i will STILL pick PvP.

Are you an AFK'er? Are you a game thrower? Are you pants on head retarded?

If you answered no to all of those things then please, keep queuing up for PVP. If you're actively participating then by all means join us and get your free XP. However, PVP is competitive and there never should have been equal XP rewards for all the tiers, which SE has fixed for us. Huzzah! \o/

If you just want easy XP with little to no work then PVP is no longer the place for you in that regard.

[Sirius-Khan]

Appreciated change.

[Daralii]

You need to come play Adder on the Aether cluster. I think there's a mild meme of how much we do not win. Does it happen, yes it does, but even with Freelancers it's a minor miracle when we do.

Honestly, I've never really played for XP, I've been slowly but surely farming Wolf Marks for the Garo gear in my spare time and enjoying the occasional WT or Tomestone windfall from it. However, I do know a lot of folks that did use it for the XP, folks that honestly try but still are not very good. I worry that they'll start getting harassed to the point where they no longer queue. If enough people do that they might go the route they did with the Feast and shut down chat. I don't want to see that happen, it's hard enough to coordinate Ice/Nodes with headless chickens as it is.

Adders on Aether is hilarious. Even with freelancer being a thing, I think the GC has a 15% winrate.

[Yeol]

This should fix the issue with AFK people in PvP. Now if you want good EXP, you should aim to win.

Cheating and buying wins always existed, even in PvP. Especially since these mounts and minions were introduced as rewards. If you just keep an eye on PvP ranking, it is so obvious who is cheating.

[ServerCollaps]

theres no real difference in winrate between aether GC's

http://de.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...=&match=&gcid=

all people average between 25-30% wr, no matter of the company

[Sparhwk]

I expect that will change and we will finally see ACTUAL competition.

No you won't. Players flocked to pvp because of the exp. And people could enjoy it despite win or loss. Cause lets face it pvp is a complete mess. There's no such thing as group coordination. Once people realize there's no more value in enjoying pvp the player base will drop off. Remember people flock to where exp is the most efficient. This fact has never changed. All this will do is increase pvp queue times and while everyone will flock to the next easy exp grind.

[Lumidus]

I welcome the change. Unless its harder for Mael to win >.>

[Pence]

One, not a dude. 2, it was merely a really rough (albeit not planned or very well thought out) draft that people can easily do it. What is SE going to do, ban everyone that takes part in pvp?

They don't need to do anything. Your system punishes the players already.