I don't know how you scholar mains do it.

[AmeliaVerves]

Can you get off of your high horse, Amelia? You have conveniently ignored my pointing out your illogical reasonings. I can handle the class fine as well, it means nothing. As a PLD you could hold agro fine as well. Doesn't mean anything, does not mean it's balanced to their counterparts of roles. You can stop pretending you know how to argue. Most of your "arguments" do not consist out of numbers or facts, but out holier than though trash that means nothing.

I never said that my opinion are arguments in the first place.
The OP stated his/her experience and opinion, so I did the same, I am sorry if I offended you with that. It was not my intention and I apologize.
I did not compare SCH to neither WHM nor AST, because I haven't played them yet, so I cannot compare in the first place. That's also why I cannot evaluate if your statements are wrong or right, so I did not say anything at all to it.

Sadly, you haven't offered any kind of proof that they are fine on a numbers/mechanical level. Are your arguments are boiled down to "they are viable and I personally have no issue with the job" Paladin was viable pre-4.0 as well, it didn't mean they were completely fine and didn't need fixes. By all means remain in your little bubble where classes don't need adjustments because they are "viable".

I am wondering where you guys see my opinion as 'argument' or me basing something on numbers anywhere? ö.ö
Also here: I am sorry my opinion offended you, that was not what I intended, I just shared my own experiences, because the thread title intended this is what this thread is for.



Here you can see some maths done.