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  1. #10441
    Player
    Amelia_Pond_Behemoth's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Violet Baudelaire
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterysword View Post
    Imagine being a newbie tank with average gear in that dungeon, competing against DPS that are 40 ilvls above you. That's why.
    Was my first experience as a new tank in Haukke HM back when it was new
    (2)

  2. #10442
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Kisa Kisa
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    Happens all the time in wow, they just try their best and be glad things die fast, and stronger dps can take hits better if they do pull hate. In fact, it happens all the time in low lv dungeons in FF14 already...don't tell me you've never pulled mobs off of a
    If anything, they need to narrow the sync so that a healer or DPS can't rip hate from a tank with every action. It's an absolutely nightmare to tank the 1-49 dungeons.

    Every time I do leveling queue and get Satasha, Copperbell, Tam-Tara, or Haukke, it's the same story. one cure = I'm now tanking. When I tried doing one of these dungeons a few times as a level 20-something tank, every action the healer did would rip hate from all the enemies directly to them.

    It never used to be like that, and it's kinda sad that the tank can die before the first boss, d/c and I can still complete the entire dungeon doing both the healing and the tanking.

    A new tank will never learn how to tank correctly if every action by the healer and DPS puts that player at the top of the enmity list.
    (3)
    Last edited by KisaiTenshi; 07-03-2017 at 06:41 AM.

  3. #10443
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    ilea's Avatar
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    Character
    Ile'a Nahvi
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    I'm a new tank myself (just hit 50 on DRK). My gear's not the best, but I've been running roulettes to practise. Everyone's been pretty nice so far, even when I can't hold hate.

    Except for this run I just had in Battle of the Big Keep.

    Decided to MT, but the OT (PLD) ripped hate from me. Switched off Grit to let him MT, since he outgeared me; he didn't bother to move Gilgamesh for the chain, so the healer nearly died. OT died right after.

    OT: lol
    OT: had to build hate for u
    OT: u shouldnt be here with that weapon

    [Which is fair. My main hand was under-levelled, but I hadn't expected this particular trial.]

    BRD: it's a level 50 weapon though?
    OT: this place is average item level 90+
    OT: and i took hate from him in 1 combo without tank stance
    OT: lol
    Me: i just rouletted dude

    And at the end --

    OT: dude
    OT: my chocobo does more dps than u

    I held the boss for the rest of the fight and did the mechanics fine. And yeah, trying to MT was my mistake, and I'm getting better gear before I go again. But that's a lot of salt for a minor flub.

    Be nice to your tank partners, people!
    (7)

  4. #10444
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    Hikuras's Avatar
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    Hikaru Matsumura
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    So many edits I'm making. - cause I'm pissed and I really don't want to write a post while being pissed off.- But people need to cool it on the play my way or else. I think it's fair to not insult someone if they want to get chest in deep dungeon. It's not my fault or my friend's fault YOU don't have the time to play. Get better timing or make a PF if time is really THAT much of an issue. But don't insult people cause they want something different then you. That's all I have to say.

    Sorry to the person that liked the post I had up here before the edit. was heated off the moment and didn't want to sound THAT mad.
    (12)
    Last edited by Hikuras; 07-03-2017 at 09:32 AM.

  5. #10445
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    tinythinker's Avatar
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    Character
    Omi Senu
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hikuras View Post
    All I wish is that people be decent. That's not hard right? It can't be THAT hard to be decent!!! Why is this so hard for the most basic of human to get? This is why we won't have nice things people.

    DF thought for the day: Be grateful when everyone in the group have even a 40%-60% idea of how their class works (much less when it's 60-80% or higher!) and make a real effort. Be grateful and try to adapt however you can to help get a clear.



    And despite the rudeness and selfishness out there, thanks so much to all of the people who have realistic expectations for DF. In any MMORPG, pugs are a crap shoot. You fun people who enjoy actually playing (with others) are why I stick around/come back.
    (8)
    Last edited by tinythinker; 07-03-2017 at 09:39 AM. Reason: length

  6. #10446
    Player
    Hikuras's Avatar
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    Hikaru Matsumura
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    As a side I'd take someone who sucks at their job and be happy then take someone who is some wanna be pro gamer anyday of the week. I can deal with " I don't know what I'm doing" I can't stand " you suck cause you're not playing how I play at all times and be perfect and NEVER make mistakes." Because that human exist. - ok I'm done. -
    (8)

  7. #10447
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    Asmund's Avatar
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    Character
    Asmund Rygnestad
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    Dear healers, some of you have forgotten your jobs as healers ever since the removal of the cleric stance dance. Many of you have decided to role play as black mages and summoners instead, by all means DPS when it's appropriate, but remember that your number one priority is to keep everyone alive. That is all, I have spoken, feel free to reply with whatever excuses you have below, I'm sure someone else will care to read them.
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  8. #10448
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    Anarnee's Avatar
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    Character
    Thyn'a Sindyrl
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    ;; I just had one of my more rough DF healer runs. In Doma Castle

    lol A few deaths happened and a few ignored mechanics. >>; I decided to reward one of the DPS with Balance cards, cause they used mana shift on me and helped with the mechanics... The other dps noticed in the end.

    DEAR BLM, you were not bad, you were super good and you made me laugh. >>; I was just panicking because you stood in the aoes and such... WHICH I TOTALLY GET, and so I did my best to keep you up...

    It was the tanks first time and he was doing his best too. I tried to throw some cards your way, also I thought I did gift you both a balance at the start...

    EITHER WAY I HAD A GOOD TIME, I panicked a lot, but it was fuuuuun.
    (1)

  9. #10449
    Player
    Amelia_Pond_Behemoth's Avatar
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    Character
    Violet Baudelaire
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 83
    Friend queues us for trials roulette. I wanted to be on BLM, but he queued us while I was still on DRK. Oh well. We get Chrysalis. Other tank is also DRK. Other DRK tries to be main tank even though I have better gear. Other tank also never puts up Darkside, just Grit. I have both up, and after a few enmity combos, I manage to steal hate. We thought it was cute that DRK thought he could outtank me without having Darkside up.
    (2)

  10. #10450
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    Ametrine's Avatar
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    Character
    Diantha Sunstone
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    So I got my second kick ever today, second go in shisui, 64 AST.

    DRK, Bard, and SAM. "Hi, first time AST in here," protect, and the DRK just books it and pulls everything he can before the gate. I try to catch up, and he's melting. He dies, (no sect) the SAM takes all the aggro and dies instantly. DRK returned, and now the bard's sprint kiting everything back to the front gate.

    I follow in confusion as the BRD dies. I just die so we can reset (still no sect). The DRK stands at the gate for a while as I rebuff and go Diurnal, before he starts to pull small. No issues then, I can even DPS.

    Post first boss, DRK sprints off, pulls big, and melts again as I catch up and try to save it. I now notice no Grit. Dead DRK returns instantly again.

    I'm trying to heal BRD when, "You have been dismissed from Shisui of the Violet Tides."

    Jeez.
    (17)

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