Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Mysterysword]

Newsflash to all tanks: Tenacity increases your damage as well, stop wearing slaying accessories, kthxbai.

[BigRed5392]

Someone in Novice Network yesterday was talking about having run into a Bard that macro'd Katy Perry song lines to their song rotations.

He got booted out after the 5 minute duty start kick restriction got lifted.

i ran into that bard lol i thought it was funny, and spiced up a run. the dude shoulda communicated to said bard about it instead of vote kicking him out over something petty.

[Frizze]

i ran into that bard lol i thought it was funny, and spiced up a run. the dude shoulda communicated to said bard about it instead of vote kicking him out over something petty.

Is that petty though? How often is a bard singing a song? Does this bard have non-macrod/simple macrod versions of these skills he could use instead if people dont like? Im sitting here thinking 5 mins is more then i could take and i might have just eaten the penalty and done something else - and i say that as a DPS who might have spent an hour queing for this dungeon.

[Faliandra]

This community really is glorious sometimes.

Doma Castle. I join as a RDM, my co-dps is a lvl 68dragoon. Doing as much damage as a BAD dragoon in the end of HW.

I tell the DRG to put effort.

"Lol? I hit for 7k!" ....Yeah...once per minute or why is nothing dying?

Stuff keeps going, drg doesnt improve. I initiate a votekick. It gets rejected while the rest of the party throws "dude, wtf?" and "Just stop" at me.

"OK then. I will stop....putting effort, too".


So, i spammed only one skill...and did the same amount of dmg like the drg. Our healer did 0 dps.
So everything dies beautifully slowly.

After second boss, they insult me as noob and as a "little b*tch" and that they dont wanna continue with me. They initiate a vote abandon.
I let them know that all I did was the same as the dragoon to show them what its like when both dps slack.

After getting out of the dungeon, I check my contacts and see all people from different servers. Why is everyone so willing to carry random strangers? DPS is easily replaced.


Is it mean what I did? Maybe. Is it fair the dragoon apparently gets away with OBVIOUS slacking while I get called out for doing the same? No.
I didnt wanna carry them. I wanted them to see what its like when no one does their job. Probably didnt help because ...some people really cant count 1 and 1 together.


I still dont care. I'd rather lose some time than being the only one who puts effort.

[Rasylia]

I'd rather lose some time than being the only one who puts effort.

And this is why the community overall doesn't improve.

[Faliandra]

And this is why the community overall doesn't improve.

not sure how you mean that?

IMO, nothing will change or improve if everyone just silently carries everyone without ever speaking up.

How would the community improve if I had just carried everyone without saying a word?

[winsock]

Stuff keeps going, drg doesnt improve. I initiate a votekick. It gets rejected while the rest of the party throws "dude, wtf?" and "Just stop" at me.

"OK then. I will stop....putting effort, too".
...
After getting out of the dungeon, I check my contacts and see all people from different servers. Why is everyone so willing to carry random strangers? DPS is easily replaced.
...
I still dont care. I'd rather lose some time than being the only one who puts effort.

Many people view "Not being a jerk" as a better stat than DPS.

Very few people get better when you just scream "get better" at them.

[Rasylia]

not sure how you mean that?

IMO, nothing will change or improve if everyone just silently carries everyone without ever speaking up.

How would the community improve if I had just carried everyone without saying a word?

Thing is, if you politely tell them what is wrong, and they change, you did something good.
If they don't change, and you carry on doing your usual things, nothing changes.
If you however decide to go down to their skill level, and stop giving a flying f*** about anything, and do no dps, you make things worse.

The mentatlity "if they don't, i won't" is not helping anyone, but just making the situation worse. That is what i meant.

[Faliandra]

Many people view "Not being a jerk" as a better stat than DPS.

Very few people get better when you just scream "get better" at them.

I see "not giving a damn" as "being a jerk".

I also told the DRG to use AoE when there was a big pack to which he replied "rotation".

I dont know, seemed like an auto-attack/1-button rotation. Told him AoE Rotation > single target rotation during packs, but alas no improvement.
I would rather not try to point out any skills in particular when I havent touched my lvl 60 dragoon in SB yet.
They gotta know what their AoE skills are.

Thing is, if you politely tell them what is wrong, and they change, you did something good.
If they don't change, and you carry on doing your usual things, nothing changes.
If you however decide to go down to their skill level, and stop giving a flying f*** about anything, and do no dps, you make things worse.

The mentatlity "if they don't, i won't" is not helping anyone, but just making the situation worse. That is what i meant.

I did tell him to use AoE on packs. I cant give him a rotation of his job, because I only have a lvl 60 dragoon which I havent touched yet in SB.
I do not know all of their changes to point out skills in particular. But when I see that someone is refusing to do AoE despite pointing it out
and in general,is doing A LOT LESS than what you could do at lvl 60, thats already quite inconsiderate of that person. I did nearly the same dmg as him repeatingly pushing ONE button.
ONE button. So I would like to say that I at least tried to raise his awareness of using AoE skills,which he refused because "rotation".

So thats when I went down to their skill level. I would not say that it worsens the general situation.

If you raise a child without ever scolding it or telling it whats wrong, you'll raise an arrogant,selfish brat. Same principle can be applied to this.
People need to get off their "You are very special, no matter what anyone says" millenial trip. Nothing wrong with a bit of harsh reality sometimes.
This time, it was only me telling that dragoon to improve. Next time, it may be someone else. Maybe over time it will get the dragoon to start thinking.
Maybe it wont. But if no one says a word, its more than likely that it wont ever change. If I do speak up, there is at least a chance.
There's a reason why the general community in MMORPGs used to be way better years ago...because there was no cross-server stuff and if you were bad or just simply being
a d*ck, you got a reputation for it and no one wanted to party with you. You bet it was a good remedy for many people.

[Galaktica]

> Queue for Frontlines
> Notice one person run to the corner of the map away from everything and everyone
> Don't say anything
> Almost 10 minutes pass
> Call the guy out, place map marker next to him to show rest of the alliance
> "lol sorry was on the phone"
> Initiate vote kick
> vote successful

Today was a good day.