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    Drae Wellenbrecher
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Every hit point beyond that which you need to survive is WASTED hit points. It's not at all surprising that once tanks have the survivability aspect covered, they'd do what they can to improve their DPS.

    Tanks you see equipping STR and then dying are simply bad at it, not doing the wrong thing. A tank should only equip enough VIT to stay alive, and then equip STR beyond that point.

    It's frankly bizarre that SE chose to revert to the STR = DPS, VIT = HP formula. What they SHOULD have done is make tank DPS dependent on VIT, and remove STR from the equation entirely - but failing that, the STR and VIT both give dps formula was decent enough.
    Well simply because tank aren't dps, they're tank, that's why vit = vit and str = dps. That's not weird and not hard to understand.
    Are they going to wear 270 accessories still when the ilvl will be 400+ at the end of stormblood? Seriously this is stupid. Like I said people take the dps too seriously. Just go play a dps job if you wanna dps as tank/heal
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    Lydalia Vallamaria
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Arutan View Post
    Well simply because tank aren't dps, they're tank, that's why vit = vit and str = dps. That's not weird and not hard to understand.
    Are they going to wear 270 accessories still when the ilvl will be 400+ at the end of stormblood? Seriously this is stupid. Like I said people take the dps too seriously. Just go play a dps job if you wanna dps as tank/heal
    Pretty sure you of all people have no right to be talking shit about what Tanks do. Seeing as you don't even have a single Tank job above level 32. Which means you've never even Tanked the later parts of ARR, the entirety of HW, or any of the new Stormblood content. So you're just one of those people who thinks they're somehow an expert on the role even though they've got ZERO high level dungeon tanking experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vallamaria View Post
    Pretty sure you of all people have no right to be talking shit about what Tanks do. Seeing as you don't even have a single Tank job above level 32. Which means you've never even Tanked the later parts of ARR, the entirety of HW, or any of the new Stormblood content. So you're just one of those people who thinks they're somehow an expert on the role even though they've got ZERO high level dungeon tanking experience.
    Have you ever heard about alt char?
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    Alysanai Holt
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    Cerberus
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Arutan View Post
    Well simply because tank aren't dps, they're tank, that's why vit = vit and str = dps. That's not weird and not hard to understand.
    Are they going to wear 270 accessories still when the ilvl will be 400+ at the end of stormblood? Seriously this is stupid. Like I said people take the dps too seriously. Just go play a dps job if you wanna dps as tank/heal
    Oh boy... Lets see now... Full 270 slaying gives tanks around 200 to 300 dps in total, 2 tanks in raid thats 400 to 600 increase in raid dps or more, which is not a small amount, on a trade off for around 9K HP per tank. Which is something that many tanks will do, because not only does it make EVERYTHING faster and if you CD properly, you won't die.

    And on the point of people taking dps too seriously.... I mean, sure, if you want to be mediocre or something, sure don't think about it... You are ofcourse entitled to your own opinion, but what you are not entitled is dictating how others play, and since you can critizise them, they can and will do the same for you, its a 2 way street.

    On a side note, this whole mess would have been avoided if they either 1. kept the thing in place where str & vit both gave damage or 2. make it so vit gives all the damage or 3. retroactively lock the pre-SB accessories.
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    Last edited by Baalfrog; 06-28-2017 at 01:27 PM.

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    Mim Silmaril
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Since we have to undress when we fantasia for years now (probably because of gender restricted gear), I assume a system which turns equipped items unavailable isn't that easy to achieve.

    Well, but since they got an inventory space increasement resulting in guaranteed free space on launch for everyone they maybe could've put all right side equipped regardless of class in armoury.
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