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  1. #81
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    this thread makes me laugh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    ..I think it was some kind of insult? Or Praise? I don't understand internet lingo.
    It's ok, I've decided to skip over any post that does not include capitalization or punctuation. You'd be surprised how quickly the forum cleans up after that point!


    Quote Originally Posted by tachikoma View Post
    this thread makes me laugh
    You and me both! From what I can gather from some of the posts anyway.
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    Next patch will be rise of the conjurers mwahahahaha. BWAHAHAHAHA
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    but the point is your doing it with all lancers to prove thats how you speed run it that fast
    you say you can do it with any class, so do it with something else and prove it

    thats the point im makin with what i said

    dont say "we can do it with any class" but then only do it with more lancers to show fast runs
    Thing is Lancers are not OP it is the fight itself that makes Lancers preferred. If MRD and PGL could stay out of sear range and still attack they they would be just as viable as LNC.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    Hint to SE :

    Balancing =/= Nerfing

    STOP NERFING EVERYONE GDI! CNJ wasn't even OP in the first place and they still got hit with the nerf bat last update.

    And btw, it is extremely impressive that a LNC was able to tank, especially with only one healer. That's definitely player skill and totally brag worthy. Good job guys! =D
    I agree with Kiroh and Uriko.

    Square should realize it's *not* about Nerfing one class as soon as it seems they're first place damage. It's about *balancing* all the other classes.

    Ultimately, Square will end up with every single class doing the exact same amount of damage and we get a homogenized experience (everyone's the same, everyone does the same damage and it feels the same = BORING).

    It's OK for different classes to feel different and have different levels of damage, as long as there is content to allow each Class to SHINE.

    Right now I think the situation is made worse because we have so *little* content:

    * We had *1* Dungeon (Batraal) for 1.18, and every class rushes to get in there, and it's Archer that shines (ranged, so they're out of harm's way) and they have high damage.

    All Non-Archers complain and SE nerfs them.

    Now we have *1* new high level fight this patch (Ifrit) and it just so happens Lancer is doing the most damage and people are outraged.

    I realize it takes time, but I hope SE isn't overly reactionary.

    Yoshida-san and the Battle Team should realize when we get more than 1 New Dungeon / NM at a time, and have multiple avenues for High Level Players to play in, *and* they design different fights so that each Class can shine...

    *That's* when we should be able to enjoy each Class without someone crying "Foul!" because they're not at the top of the Damage List.

    If we eventually have, say...

    • New Dungeon A, and Pugilist is really good for that situation (with other classes being fine as well)
    • New Dungeon B, and Marauder can shine there...
    • New Dungeon C, and Archer / Mages (ranged) are more helpful there...
    • New Dungeon D, XYZ class can shine there...
    etc., then I think the situation wouldn't be so "unfair" for anyone and we can enjoy Class differences. Note in the above example, I'm not advocating that SE makes it so that you *have* to use a certain class, but that it's OK for a certain class to shine in different situations, with all other classes still being viable for that content.

    It's just right now, SE is slowly eeking out content, and we get 1 new experience and everyone that's not the best class cries for that (current) "top damage / best" class to get nerfed so they can have a chance to be "top dog."

    Square, please don't overreact and think about Balance, not Nerfing (and long-term feel for all classes). I look forward to Class / Job Uniqueness and Feel, and not having every single Class do the exact same amount of damage to be "equal" for everyone. That's not the solution.

    Thanks.
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  6. #86
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    Thing about FFXIV is, they aren't overreacting, Yoshida even stated patches and balance will seem extreme at times because this is pretty much a work in progress game (overhaul).

    Whenever SE balances jobs in XI things go to the spotlight, never nerfed. The only nerf to a class directly was the Ranger Nerf, any other nerf was indirect, i.e the magic resistance patch which gave mobs magic resistance, or the patch on TP return which Players deemed was a nerf to DRG, even though DRG itself was never nerfed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Wait...what?
    In fighting games, salt refers to the taste of someone's tears when they complain or whine about losing.

    Unfortunately, he used it out of context because no one is salty about the 7 LNC run. Rather, he is salty about the fact that people are making fun of them for thinking that this was something worth bragging about.

    A 'salty runback' is a rematch from the perspective of the player that just lost. In this case, having them post more videos with slightly shorter times or making another thread about it would qualify as a salty runback.

    Fighting game lingo is the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    We just attempted an 8 lancer run:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
    damn, I thought it was real lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kro View Post
    Fighting game lingo is the best.
    OH HE"S SO PRINGLES

    CURLY MUSTACHE
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    but the point is your doing it with all lancers to prove thats how you speed run it that fast
    you say you can do it with any class, so do it with something else and prove it

    thats the point im makin with what i said

    dont say "we can do it with any class" but then only do it with more lancers to show fast runs
    Their just showing how fast it can be done with the most efficient (highest dd) class if its available. Just for shits and giggles. I doubt there is much more meaning
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    FFXIV Since Sep. 2010: Selbina/Ridill/Excalibur (Mergers)
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    I remember the Alpha days when even breathing lagged you

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