MNK 4.0 Changes . . . I'm not a fan tbh

[KingFrost]

Being more positive, I wonder if our potencies got nerfed due to the amount of Direct Hits we'll be able to put out. It occurs pretty frequently, and save ninja (Debatable), no class hits as often as we do.

I'm interested in going nuts with skill speed myself (Our TP is laughably efficient at this point. I thought the game was bugged since I was at 900+ several minutes into a boss fate). Depending on how much Direct Hit impacts DPS, it may be a good idea.

Just as well, more skill speed means a possible additional Bootshine without DK falling, meaning more chakra.

But God, please rework tackle Mastery. It the Plenary Indulgence for Monks.

[Sora_Oathkeeper]

Since they fixed Monk's TP issue you can go for a Skill Speed build this patch. If you boost your SS to the +1300 range, I believe you will be able to reach roughly 1.7/8 sec GCD . At that speed, Riddle of Fire will probably put you back to 3.0 monk attack speed. So you won't feel any slower than you are now at GL 3 with the proper set of gear.

I'm not sure why you'd go for SS build when crit will give more opportunities for chakra stacks. They've shoehorned monk as crit now. Exactly the same way bard was forced into crit for ARR. it's all about the procs and if you put a big hit behind crit rng. you can bet that crit is going to be the way forward. Which is a shame because Sks is actually not a bad stat right now with the tp costs being reduced. I feel as if Monk's abilities contradict one another in some way.

[Haaki]

I'm not sure why you'd go for SS build when crit will give more opportunities for chakra stacks. They've shoehorned monk as crit now. Exactly the same way bard was forced into crit for ARR. it's all about the procs and if you put a big hit behind crit rng. you can bet that crit is going to be the way forward. Which is a shame because Sks is actually not a bad stat right now with the tp costs being reduced. I feel as if Monk's abilities contradict one another in some way.

Well, we'll see. Maybe you'll be able to have a good amount of SKS and Crit stacked with the new sets. I'm looking forward to it!

[OmegaStrongtan]

how does your controller setup look like?

[DatPotato]

EDIT : I must add, depending on fights and my heal I switch Bloodbath for goad

[RyuDragnier]

I've hit level 70, and found that with at least 900 skill speed (I have 931) and a full GL3 going, Riddle of Fire is nowhere near as slow as it would be. It appears to be the golden target (at the least) we want to hit if we want to avoid being too slow while using the skill.

2.41 recast timer without GL
2.05 recast timer with GL3
2.36 recast timer with Riddle of Fire and GL3 up

[OmegaStrongtan]

EDIT : I must add, depending on fights and my heal I switch Bloodbath for goad

Thanks this looks good. But don't you have problems with stocking up chackra while running since it is not on ABXY?

[Pyitoechito]

Question from a player that hasn't unlocked Monk yet: Could Tornado Kick actually be effective if used at the very end of Riddle of Fire's dutation with all GCD and oGCD buff/debuffs applied?

Example scenario:

1. Monk has all GCD buff/debuffs active and GL3 before starting RoF
2. RoF activated, normal GCD rotation continues and GCD buffs/debuffs are maintained
3. With 15s remaining, Monk activates both Brotherhood and Internal Release and starts weaving oGCD damage
4. Monk has Coeurl form ready before RoF ends (to rebuild GL stacks)
5. Right before RoF ends (as well as Internal Release and Brotherhood), Monk uses Tornado Kick

Would this actually be an effective use of Tornado Kick outside of pre-downtime, or is fully-buffed Tornado Kick still not enough to make up for the loss of Greased Lightning stacks?

[TrophyGalore]

This would only probably be effective if you have PB ready to be used so that you can get GL3 as fast as possible. If your don't have PB up I would most likely say this isn't a good way as the lost of GL3 is to large in how long it takes for to build up GL stacks.

[Pyitoechito]

This would only probably be effective if you have PB ready to be used so that you can get GL3 as fast as possible. If your don't have PB up I would most likely say this isn't a good way as the lost of GL3 is to large in how long it takes for to build up GL stacks.

It's hard to do the math without actually parsing it. Something to note is that while most of Monk's GCD skills took a small potency hit, Tornado Kick and oGCDs excluding Forbidden Chakra remain unchanged. There's also the lack of Touch of Death that sort-of works in Tornado Kick's favor, since Monk's no longer have to forego applying it or sacrifice a GCD on it while building GL. Also have the chance of getting a crit or direct crit Tornado Kick that deals a hefty amount of damage with all those other buffs behind it.