Plenary Indulgence is a tank heal

[Risvertasashi]

Just for anyone wondering exactly how badly SE fked over WHM, since there was uncertainty in the tooltip, now we know.

20% chance to use a tank heal that's less powerful than cure.

[Rivxkobe]

The fact that you can only get Confession stacks when you cast a Cure or Cure II and not even Medica(at least), that the heal consumes the stacks, and that it is unlikely (and unrealistic) to get more than one stack on the tank (let alone even one stack on any other party member) Plenary Indulgence is, frankly, silly and an overly clunky heal that needs to be looked at.

[Baci]

Planetary heals less from a lvl 70 WHM on a WAR than a 62 AST with earthly on a PLD

[Risvertasashi]

Planetary heals less from a lvl 70 WHM on a WAR than a 62 AST with earthly on a PLD

Not to downplay how trash PI is but... WAR buff only affects spell based healing, much like ex-Divine Seal. PI (and Assize, Tetra, and so on; basically all the oGCD heals) aren't spells and so aren't affected by these buffs.

It's still terribad, though.

[ViolaCrossfire]

Can we talk about how another WHM's confession stack can show up on the buff bar tricking you into thinking YOU were the one who made it?

[Snat]

Can we talk about how another WHM's confession stack can show up on the buff bar tricking you into thinking YOU were the one who made it?

Ya, makes you wonder what happened to the UI in Stormblood. You can't see other AST cards ... but you can see WHM's confession stacks where ideally it should be the other way around.

[Reiryuu]

When I first went into the level 70 dungeon Temple of the Fist or whatever its called, I tried to use cure and cure II as much as possible and see how many I'd get. I got like 5. 5 the entire dungeon all on the tank. When I wanted to use PI, the tank's confessions wore off and when the tank had confessions, he didn't need healing... =/ I have terrible luck with RNG so that's probably why, but a heal that's gated by RNG seems stupid at the least. I don't think even increasing the chance can save it. IMHO, it should be reversed. PI costs 3 lilies, mid-potency AoE heal, has a cooldown, gives 3 stacks of confessions and those confessions grant 10% less damage on the next 3 attacks (each hit you take consumes 1 confession)... but that's just me. Maybe that'd make it too OP? *shrug*

[Risvertasashi]

-snip-

That was pretty much the story of my first dungeon run too. Spamming cure (and so overhealing) to proc it, being very underwhelmed.

At this point, WHM just desperate needs a lot of love in general. But whatever changes they make... I'm not keen on RNG. As long as it's RNG, it can never be core.

[xNewbx]

This is one of the reasons I hate PI so much. It's incredibly hard to keep track of (good luck in Raids), let alone when you have 2 WHM in a party. When you cast Cure I/II on a DPS and they get a stack, most of the time I end up using PI while they're at full health because they never take damage after that initial hit and I hate that my low RNG skill never even gets to be used

[Parawill]

Honestly, I'm not surprised it's crap. 20% is abysmal, especially considering we've lived with Freecure procs at 15% (yay 5% more than this, but my point still stands) which procs once in awhile as well... I don't know what's up with the devs, but between lilies (in PvE) and PI, the benefits of them are extremely lackluster.