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  1. #2361
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    Omega Strongtan
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    Thaumaturge Lv 18
    I also have enochian randomly drop a lot. And since I don't have my timers on my debuff bar any more I can't ponpoint when it happens...
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  2. #2362
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    Lazarus Loong
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    Seen a lot of great tips but I want to add the below as it took me nearly a week to figure out new mechanics.

    T3-F3-Enoch-F4x2-F3-B3-B4x2

    Keeping enochian alive for 30 seconds gets you poly, haven't got that far because mobs die by first B4 of the above rotation.

    Breaking it down

    F3-F4x2-F3: F3 grants access to F4, only enough time for two, casting F3 resets the time, can't cast another F4 or enochian drops so cast B3 granting. Access to B4. Same concept as fire phase, cast 2 B4, reset timer with B3 and rinse and repeat F3-F4x2-F3
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  3. #2363
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    Lazarus Loong
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    Odin
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    Timers are different, the concept is to build to that 620 spell which means you need to master Fire/Ice rotation to keep Enoc up 30sec
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  4. #2364
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    Lazarus Loong
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kryzen View Post
    I don't have any issues with 1 second remaining on stacks. I have a wired bit where I'll be casting fire 1 to refresh my stacks and I actually get my refresh about 0.5 seconds before the cast is finished and the attack is launched with damage registered.
    Fire phase: F3 - F4x2 F3 to reset timer into ice phase

    Ice Phase: B3 - B4x2 -B3 resetting timer returning to fire phase

    Rinse repeat until you can cast 620 spell (obtained at level 70)

    Leveling 60-70 however the Fire/Ice phase rotation maximizes constant damage and allows mobility to dodge without dropping Enoch, need to reset timer quickly because cast interrupt, drop a F3/B3 (depending which phase you're in) resets timer to cast B/F4 again

    Still working on including other rotations
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  5. #2365
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    Void Fang
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    Zalera
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lazirus View Post
    Seen a lot of great tips but I want to add the below as it took me nearly a week to figure out new mechanics.

    T3-F3-Enoch-F4x2-F3-B3-B4x2

    Keeping enochian alive for 30 seconds gets you poly, haven't got that far because mobs die by first B4 of the above rotation.

    Breaking it down

    F3-F4x2-F3: F3 grants access to F4, only enough time for two, casting F3 resets the time, can't cast another F4 or enochian drops so cast B3 granting. Access to B4. Same concept as fire phase, cast 2 B4, reset timer with B3 and rinse and repeat F3-F4x2-F3
    Im.trying to make sense of this rotation and its not clicking. Why would you use this over the basic

    B3-enoch-t3/4-b4-f3-f4-f4-f1-f4-f4-f4-B3-t3-foul-b4?

    Tbh your rotation looks absurd but maybe im missing something? Context?
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  6. #2366
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    Linari Maya
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    Shiva
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    Archer Lv 60
    would be nice if you post your eno drop problems in here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Reason-to-drop
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  7. #2367
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    Almerin's Avatar
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    Alec Hawkeyes
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    Odin
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Are you sure you're not just using Fire 1 while in Umbral after shifting? That will remove your Umbral buff and obviously also Enochian. Sure, the rotation feels slightly tighter due to the stacks falling off at 13 seconds exactly with no chance to "cheat" it like before if you got a late Blizzard/Fire 3 off, but I've personally not had any of these issues you're describing.
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  8. #2368
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Enochian stay as long you can keep your fire/ice stacks. If you cast your blizzard 3 in the last second you may lose your stacks for 0.5 second. You get your cast off, but failed keeping stacks up 100% time. I dont think it is bug.
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  9. #2369
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    Its only happened to me twice but i can say it does fall off at weird times and not because of mis use of fire 1 in UI. It literally fell off mid boss fight right after i refreshed with fire 1.

    Example etc-enoch-f3-f4-f4-f1-zipp f4 couldnt be used and Enoch still had 20s to go.
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  10. #2370
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    Doctor Fumbles
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    The one above stated seems weird rotation wise. I believe Yoshi-p had the right idea during the live letter. T3-B3,eno-chan, B4, F3, F4 x3 for hearts, F1 for refresh, Convert F4x3 again. I have no mana left, so B3, B4 rinse and repeat. Granted, I don't have foul yet, but I am sure I can fit in the end after two cycles of that.
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