Lupin - make it a playable race!

[Abriael]

We already have a massive thread about this, so what made you think we needed another?

And no. The whole story is about humanoid races vs beastmen. The warrior of light belongs to the former. The wolfheads to the latter. There won't ever be beastmen warriors of light and they're not going to change the whole story to add a race that wouldn't be popular anyway.

[xXBigBroxX]

@Abriael Lmao, so you're going to discredit the fact that there are separate tribes among the beastmen who actually work alongside the human-like races? While yes there are hostile tribes who oppose humanity, it's not as black and white as you put it. Qiqirn can be seen in Limsa and Ul'Dah as traveling merchants, an Ixali can be seen conversing with another NPC within the Arcanist guild.
While I may not be a fan of the Lupin model, I wouldn't immediately cast out the idea of a playable beastkin/beastmen race completely. And while a few couldn't care less about having one, let alone another race period, the masses seem to be clamoring for a beast race at this point. To say it wouldn't be popular, is more of a personal opinion than a fact.

[Clethoria]

To say it wouldn't be popular, is more of a personal opinion than a fact.

It may as well be fact. JP/EU like waifus and host club husbandos.

[Abriael]

@Abriael Lmao, so you're going to discredit the fact that there are separate tribes among the beastmen who actually work alongside the human-like races? While yes there are hostile tribes who oppose humanity, it's not as black and white as you put it.

There's a very large and wide difference between "working alongside" and not being seen as alien in nature, and that is expressed a ton of times during the story. I never once mentioned hostility in my posts, so your argument is moot.

the masses seem to be clamoring for a beast race at this point.

You're mistaking the same few people posting on this kind of thread over and over with some kind of mass. This is a common mistake, but still a mistake.

To say it wouldn't be popular, is more of a personal opinion than a fact.

All instances of the census show extremely clearly than the less human a race looks, the less popular it is, as roegadyn aptly demonstrate below with their whopping 4%/6%/4%. The same kind of surveys on other games (like WoW for instance) show similar results. Other options that mix the iconic factor with the sexy/cute/handsome factor are obviously where the money is for SE. If they even care to implement a new race at all at this point, that is, which definitely is not a given. And by "this point" I mean two years down the line, when the game will be even more mature and requiring more "aids" to retain subscriptions and create new ones.

[Evergrey]

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Don't rain on others parade just because you don't agree.
Just let people enjoy and wish for what they want.
Or are you gonna tell them about Santa aswell?

[Abriael]

Don't rain on others parade just because you don't agree.
Just let people enjoy and wish for what they want.
Or are you gonna tell them about Santa aswell?

Sorry (not sorry) to rain on your parade, but this is a discussion forum. The "general discussion" at the top of the page should be enough of a hint for you to understand that it's made for discussion. If you want to express your wishes without anyone discussing them (and that includes negative discussion), a blog or a tumblr with locked comments are what you're looking for.

[Evergrey]

Sorry (not sorry) to rain on your parade, but this is a discussion forum. The "general discussion" at the top of the page should be enough of a hint for you to understand that it's made for discussion. If you want to express your wishes without anyone discussing them (and that includes negative discussion), a blog or a tumblr with locked comments are what you're looking for.

Same thing can be said about the Viera thread. When people try to Discuss about why they don't want it they are wrong in doing so.
So why is it OK to want something but not OK to want something else? That's all I'm trying to say.
Let people want what they want.

[Ogulbuk]

Same thing can be said about the Viera thread. When people try to Discuss about why they don't want it they are wrong in doing so.
So why is it OK to want something but not OK to want something else? That's all I'm trying to say.
Let people want what they want.

My guess is because they fear developers will see the threads and decide to actually give us new stuff that they don't like.

[Abriael]

Same thing can be said about the Viera thread. When people try to Discuss about why they don't want it they are wrong in doing so.

I sure did not tell anyone not to discuss anything in this forum. It's not my place to do so. Nor is it yours.

So why is it OK to want something but not OK to want something else? That's all I'm trying to say.

You're saying that to the wrong person. For all I care, go to the Viera thread and do your worst. It won't change the fact that Viera are without a doubt a better balance between investment and returns/marketing for SE, whether you or me like them or not.

Let people want what they want.

You're entitled to want want whatever you like, as much as I am entitled to tell you why It most probably won't happen, and why it shouldn't.

[Ogulbuk]

All instances of the census show extremely clearly than the less human a race looks, the less popular it is, as roegadyn aptly demonstrate below with their whopping 4%/6%/4%. The same kind of surveys on other games (like WoW for instance) show similar results. Other options that mix the iconic factor with the sexy/cute/handsome factor are obviously where the money is for SE. If they even care to implement a new race at all at this point, that is, which definitely is not a given. And by "this point" I mean two years down the line, when the game will be even more mature and requiring more "aids" to retain subscriptions and create new ones.

Yet the last races added to WoW were werewolf, goblin and a big panda. You know why? Because they realized that the "pretty/human" base was already over-served. As a game dev myself, I would consider it a waste of resources to invest more in an already over-served segment of the player base. Attracting players that have not been catered to would be a way more wise investment of my time and resources. However, it also has to be a skeleton that can easily get gear migration from other races and wear helmets with little or no modification.

You're mistaking the same few people posting on this kind of thread over and over with some kind of mass. This is a common mistake, but still a mistake.

I would say that knife cuts both ways. Few people posting against it over and over on this kind of thread are not a real opposition either.