Who is jumping ship once they start charging in November?

[yukikaze_yanagi]

supposedely its a comspiracy and the front page is supposed to be filled with quitting threads
and if it isnt, then SE is censoring everyone and hiding the truth

even though we can see every deleted thread cuz it has a nice big red - next to it when they close and lock and delete it so we can see what they stopped

You should better believe in chemtrails

[irongripz]

because this debate turns into a who supports SE debate. we can not debate that with out indisputable harm to SE, because it seems as if we are trying to convince people to do otherwise. when in fact we are not again, I am just stating my disappointment and dissatisfaction at the game in the state it is in. then you trolls debate my opinions until the point i am not allowed to debate it on these forums. so again

one sided debate this thread should have been closed 20 pages ago.

[Preypacer]

because this debate turns into a who supports SE debate. we can not debate that with out indisputable harm to SE, because it seems as if we are trying to convince people to do otherwise. when in fact we are not again, I am just stating my disappointment and dissatisfaction at the game in the state it is in. then you trolls debate my opinions until the point i am not allowed to debate it on these forums. so again

one sided debate this thread should have been closed 20 pages ago.

Because a picture is worth a thousand words, and because words and attempts at actually reasoning are lost on him...

Here's gripz previous post in a picture:

[TheVedis]

i don't have a numerical stat but i have apology letters. i have bad reviews after bad reviews to back my opinions. only good reviews you will find on this game are probably on this forum or straight from a fanboysite.

i never put the word FACT behind my statments. only those who disagree argur that there is any facts..

lets go over the fact tho..

wow has 9500 quests ffxiv has 300 ok this is not fair wow is older lets compare recently launched games.

rift has over 2500. ffxiv has 300

hmmm seems as if my opinion that its unfinished has facts to back it up....

now lets take some other hard facts

1) what other games are doing has NO EFFECT on ones enjoyment of this game
2) what other games have in them have NO EFFECT on ones enjoyment of this game
3) playing another game on the side has NO EFFECT on ones enjoyment of this game

so lets think of it this way
you have a few choices

1) you enjoy the game and will pay for it
2) you enjoy the game, but player others more and dont have the time to make it worth playing this one
3) you dont enjoy the game, and have no reason to pay for something you dont enjoy
4) your a sheep who believes your only allowed to play 1 game at a time and you must plkay the most popular one out or your a nobody, thus you refuse to pay for this one

[irongripz]

Votes of Actual Game Owners > Votes of Non Game Owners

your whole debate is just stupid. those who bought the game at release have been able to play just like YOU.
they paid just as much as YOU..
the game has been free for them TOO.
they was asked to wait just like YOU.
they can complain on any site they want.
Show you fact they deactivated accounts since you keep calling me out..
More people don't play this game than actually do play it.

But you right everyone deactivated their account when SE promised to fix the game.

but i see you come back wit same old BS as usual.

[Snugglebutt]

I want to try SWTOR so I will vanish for little while when that comes out, but if that one isn't that good then I would come back to this one. The slower pace is fine with me and I have no desire to ever play WoW again but I also will have noted that I have no intention of paying for two MMOs subscriptions. I do think this game needs vast increase in quests however and I do miss my Mog House from FFXI. I have only just started playing this one so I do not know the details of second classes aka advanced classes yet as in if they in or won't be in till 2.0 but I like the idea behind them

I also like having the retainer do selling for me and other things but it is still my preference for more of simple search function for items and just easier to use trading as I currently have to go to market wards items search which is not even a search more like vast list in random order, scroll through write down current prices for dozens and dozens of items I have then go off call retainer put stuff in plus prices allocated I had to manually search each one through vast list to the items... Then go back yet again put retainer in ward. It's simply bit too much work imho.

The repeated copy paste enviroments which are being fixed for 2.0 never bothered me that much right now but then maybe that will change over time and get more annoying. Oh one last thing that irritates me is ALT-TAB causing crashing so once in if want to go find something out I end up having to log out and back in again after. Playing in windowed mode cause serious lag on my system unfortuantly. If all those things are fixed I will be very happy person come version 2.0. They are the only downside I have with game right now which is shame but I still enjoy playing it. If SWTOR wasn't coming out soon I wouldn't even take break in first place but I do want to try that other one at least for few months see if like it I admit.

So it will go like this ~

Play FFXIV until SWTOR comes out.
Quit playing FFXIV for period of time to give SWTOR a try which will probably last few months.

(If SWTOR I like alot I'll be playing that until version 2.0 comes out for FFXIV which I am really thinking will be very good.)
I will then come back at 2.0 and play FFXIV again.

(If SWTOR is not my thing and I don't enjoy it much.)
Then I will come back and play FFXIV again until version 2.0 of which time will assess the changes and decide if stay.

Thats my plan in pure for me logical simple form.

[Vawn]

I find it funny his name is Iron Gripz, yet he actually has no grip at all.

[irongripz]

Because a picture is worth a thousand words, and because words and attempts at actually reasoning are lost on him...

Here's gripz previous post in a picture:

aww hes so cute. thats about what most people look like after playing this game.

[Vawn]

So it will go like this ~

Play FFXIV until SWTOR comes out.
Quit playing FFXIV for period of time to give SWTOR a try which will probably last few months.

(If SWTOR I like alot I'll be playing that until version 2.0 comes out for FFXIV which I am really thinking will be very good.)
I will then come back at 2.0 and play FFXIV again.

(If SWTOR is not my thing and I don't enjoy it much.)
Then I will come back and play FFXIV again until version 2.0 of which time will assess the changes and decide if stay.

Thats my plan in pure for me logical simple form.

Somehow I can respect that plan more than:

If I like FFXIV:

- continue playing FFXIV.

If I don't like FFXIV:

- continue playing FFXIV, but make it my mission to convince everyone it sucks. Post 50x daily about how the game sucks and how SE is behind some conspiracy theories to keep me from telling the TRUTH. Ultimate goal: everyone quits, servers shut down and I can finally leave the game behind.

[irongripz]

Somehow I can respect that plan more than:

If I like FFXIV:

- continue playing FFXIV.

If I don't like FFXIV:

- continue playing FFXIV, but make it my mission to convince everyone it sucks. Post 50x daily about how the game sucks and how SE is behind some conspiracy theories to keep me from telling the TRUTH. Ultimate goal: everyone quits, servers shut down and I can finally leave the game behind.

see you miss the point im not playing ffxiv atm, im tabbed out in between my queque, to complain about a crappy game. get it straight. i might play ffxiv again after next patch till then game has nothing fun to offer besides grind a char in dreadfull playing conditions