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    Skyrior's Avatar
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    Skiros Drakon
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    • schs are getting 960 potency fey union over 6s usabale every 40s (or 1440 pot per minute, but I'm guessing no one really needs to heal 1440 pot)
    • shadowflare is not a nerf (it's on an ogcd, replace the two gcds with broil2 and calculate the potency yourself)
    • bane, miasma2, blizz2 is a nerf, but inconsequential in raids (don't bring up a2s or a9s because no serious raider can't clear that)
    • chain strat blows whm dps out of the water (all crit chance buffs are additive right now, so this is most probably additive too)
    • excog is a pure buff
    • sch utility is still irreplaceable (fey illum, fey cov, deploy, etc.)
    • schs are getting cross-class skills for FREE (divine seal, shroud of saints)


    only bad healer is whm and they aren't nerfed, just not buffed enough
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    Last edited by Skyrior; 06-16-2017 at 02:46 PM.

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    Ozzie Nyandias
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Skyrior View Post
    • schs are getting 960 potency fey union over 6s usabale every 40s (or 1440 pot per minute, but I'm guessing no one really needs to heal 1440 pot)
    • shadowflare is not a nerf (it's on an ogcd, replace the two gcds with broil2 and calculate the potency yourself)
    • bane, miasma2, blizz2 is a nerf, but inconsequential in raids
    • chain strat blows whm dps out of the water (all crit chance buffs are additive right now, so this is most probably additive too)
    • excog is a pure buff
    • sch utility is still irreplaceable (fey illum, fey cov, deploy, etc.)
    • schs are getting cross-class skills for FREE (divine seal, shroud of saints)


    only bad healer is whm and they aren't nerfed, just not buffed enough
    don't forget this


    No really sch is fine. if you want to see a real tragedy, look at the tanks.
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    Cupcakesu's Avatar
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    Tomoyo Nellu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyrior View Post
    • schs are getting 960 potency fey union over 6s usabale every 40s (or 1440 pot per minute, but I'm guessing no one really needs to heal 1440 pot)
    What is the math behind this statement? 3s of Fey Union = 480 potency = 10 Fey Points, and cancelling after two procs (or whenever your gauge goes down by 20)? Are we sure this is how it works?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cupcakesu View Post
    What is the math behind this statement? 3s of Fey Union = 480 potency = 10 Fey Points, and cancelling after two procs (or whenever your gauge goes down by 20)? Are we sure this is how it works?
    Yes, 20 fey points -> 480 x 2 = 960 pot

    20 fey points is accumulated via 2 AF actions. You get 3 AF actions per minute (more AF actions if you include the free 3 AF actions in your opener).

    It would make absolute ZERO sense for it to be 480 potency across 100 fey points (that would make this be the most useless skill ever). So it is almost definitely going to act like a HoT (and if it is an HoT according the game logic Fey Union would be even further buffed by SpS).
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    I think as a Healer, Scholar can still function just fine with its new tools. But there's really no acceptable explanation or justification for the removal of its AoE damage. It literally can't do anything in dungeons now.
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    nvm, someone decided to ninja-edit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyrior View Post
    nvm, someone decided to ninja-edit
    I assume you're referring to me, and that's because I saw your other post about the action list after I finished the post. :P
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    Tyla Esmeraude
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I understand people are upset about their job changes, but they should be objective when making statements like:

    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post

    And AST, WHAT THE HELL. they can now do a 300 potency attack or a 540 potency heal every 5 seconds.... 5 SECONDS!!! Their shields are better, they now have more healing output since Diurnal is a potency boost over a speed boost. And while Aspected Benefic might of seen an MP increase, I bet it\\'ll be no where near as high as Adloquim; which is not instant, and now will suck even if it crits, "
    Sure, Minor Arcana is 5 secs recast, but Draw isn\\'t. We can draw a card every 30 secs and add to that what we royal road, spread, redraw or use, that\\'s not every 5 secs anymore. It also is r.a.n.d.o.m... we might get Lady of Crowns when we actually need Lord of Crowns and not healing. That\\'s not every 5 seconds.

    Also, Nocturnal Stance\\'d Aspected Benefic got its cure potency removed.
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    Kira Matsumoto
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    Goblin
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    Archer Lv 70
    As a sensed WHM (15 years FFXI to FFXIV) I say it looks just fine if your a pure healer already, I was alrdy a pro at solo healing endgame as WHM... This just made it easyer for me. It only weak to ppl that see it that way, I myself see a new way to save mp and also Aoe heal much better.

    Not going to get in to a fight over this, I say if you don't like it play something diff.. Let the pros, that know better show you how it done. If the only job for WHM is to heal they don't need over the top heals, like the SCH and Ast, that have pets, cards and DPS that there popping off at the same time trying to heal, if the heal are too weak it be much harder for them to top off, over a pure healer like WHM that on has 2-3 DPS sill, no pet or cards to fuck with out side of healing.. again not many of us see the bigger pitcher here. WHM is a pure healer, they don't need OP heals when 90% of their skills are heals! Where Ast and SCH it more 50/25/25 Heals/buffs/DPS. This is way SE told everyone to calm the fuck down. And just wait till you try it 1st. Sure they may be a few odd play here, but in the end I see this as a good move.

    At the end of the day Exp and skill play more in to a healer then Combos and macros..Good day!
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    Last edited by Hazuki87; 06-16-2017 at 03:44 PM.

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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hazuki87 View Post
    Not going to get in to a fight over this, I say if you don't like it play something diff.. Let the pros, that know better show you how it done. Just like the bards did in 3.x.. Good day!
    Similar to what you said, not trying to start a fight; but was this statement directed at me? Cause if it was, its a little hurtful, on two counts, One because I am a PRO Scholar, but also a PRO Bard. What would make you think I'm not a pro?
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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