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  1. #11
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    Vaunhause's Avatar
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    Neaoli Vaunhause
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    Personally, I'd wait to get our hands on it and see how it plays in game to see if everything is as tarnished and ruined as people make it out to be, but judging from on paper, yikes.

    We definitely know who'll be meta though, but Scholar seems to be necessary still since Fairy actions (Covenant, Illumination) + crit barrier spread
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  2. #12
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    Daemon_Windborne's Avatar
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    Akatsuki Shadowsbane
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    The removal of sustain is probably the biggest mystery for me. Especially since there doesn't seem to have been anything added or altered to compensate. Egis will die faster and not and will take no less time to recast. If I've missed something, someone please explain it to me. -_-
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  3. #13
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    Aya Hamada
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaunhause View Post
    Personally, I'd wait to get our hands on it and see how it plays in game to see if everything is as tarnished and ruined as people make it out to be, but judging from on paper, yikes.

    We definitely know who'll be meta though, but Scholar seems to be necessary still since Fairy actions (Covenant, Illumination) + crit barrier spread
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/scholar/
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/whitemage/

    I do not want to play SCH having no AoE damage.
    I would not want to play whm where i need 8/5 (making it impossible) to have all my tools I used to have as needs, let alone be able to play with the new abilities, this also leaves out the useless cleric stance. You do not need to play to know these alone are bad choices.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon_Windborne View Post
    The removal of sustain is probably the biggest mystery for me. Especially since there doesn't seem to have been anything added or altered to compensate. Egis will die faster and not and will take no less time to recast. If I've missed something, someone please explain it to me. -_-
    Yep with the potency loss I might as well heal without the fairy when she dies.

    I HAVE TO PICK SWIFTCAST as a SCH because of the fariy summoning and SCH is the weakest raw healing already.
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  4. #14
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    Adore Mi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon_Windborne View Post
    The removal of sustain is probably the biggest mystery for me. Especially since there doesn't seem to have been anything added or altered to compensate. Egis will die faster and not and will take no less time to recast. If I've missed something, someone please explain it to me. -_-
    There is a new something where you can apparently turn on Companion Display Name and HP bars. I'm hoping this means that other people's summons/turrets will now be a part of the party bar where a healer and heal them as they can any other party member.
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  5. #15
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    Texa Yuu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon_Windborne View Post
    The removal of sustain is probably the biggest mystery for me. Especially since there doesn't seem to have been anything added or altered to compensate. Egis will die faster and not and will take no less time to recast. If I've missed something, someone please explain it to me. -_-
    The time I'd ever have the egis or fairy die is because
    1. I died
    2. I very nearly almost died standing in bad
    3. They took aggro from a mob that the tank didn't pick up
    4. I was running from mobs solo questing
    5. I didn't use heel and they got caught in a cleave

    So I'm meh on that one
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  6. #16
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    Kanzaki Furia
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    snip.
    nice feather pin =p
    great mind thinks alike.. i see.
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  7. #17
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    Aya Hamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texa View Post
    The time I'd ever have the egis or fairy die is because
    1. I died
    2. I very nearly almost died standing in bad
    3. They took aggro from a mob that the tank didn't pick up
    4. I was running from mobs solo questing
    5. I didn't use heel and they got caught in a cleave

    So I'm meh on that one
    I rarely had my fairy die because i was using SUSTAIN! that is why I am mad of the removal
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  8. #18
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    Soki Yagami
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    SCH change might still be up for debate, but WHM really seem to be loaded with salt... Anyone else think we should get more than 5 role-actions now that the level cap has been increased? Especially for WHM.
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  9. #19
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    Inari Silverfox
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    Zalera
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaktica View Post
    When it was announced that there were only two jobs coming and it the reality started to sink in that they both might be dps, I made a comment along the lines of "I hope whatever changes they make to healers and tanks don't drive people away to the dps role" because that means queues are only going to get worse for dps.

    This is what I was talking about.
    When someone asked me if I was going to run any dungeons as SAM or RDM this weekend I said, "Nope. But I'm sure going to take advantage of the fact that no one's playing healer right now and queue my AST."

    I'll play around with the new jobs a bit, run a few FATEs and test the skills on dummies, but I'm not even going to bother trying to run any content on them. Hell, I might just push AST from 52-60 as fast as I can so I can queue on that for the new content instead of BRD.

    EDIT: Just to be clear, I actually love AST. I had leveled WHM to 60, but recently started playing AST seriously and really fell in love with it, and have been thinking of changing mains to it anyway. This just kind of reinforces that decision.
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    Last edited by Naberrie; 06-16-2017 at 01:21 PM.

  10. #20
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    Neaoli Vaunhause
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    I rarely had my fairy die because i was using SUSTAIN! that is why I am mad of the removal
    You actually used sustain? I never had to on my Sch, ever, since Eos would just heal herself or I'd do it myself. Sustain is almost a waste of mana, so I just threw it off my bar

    EDIT: Especially did it because it could free up some space on my bar, which was already jam packed, so I feel like it was a good decision
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